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JesusLovesYou
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If Jesus loves us why is flesh eating bacteria a thing that exists?


Because God respects human FREE WILL.


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Because God respects human FREE WILL.

What does that have to do with free will?


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If Jesus loves us why is flesh eating bacteria a thing that exists?


Because gay secks, bruh.


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Lake shore drive is the only way I know to god.


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If Jesus loves us why is flesh eating bacteria a thing that exists?


So it can eat away your dirty, filthy sin of the flesh. smile


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What does that have to do with free will?
God gave you the FREE WILL to have your body eaten by flesh eating bacteria. Praise Him.


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God gave you the FREE WILL to have your body eaten by flesh eating bacteria. Praise Him.


Peace Be Upon Him.

*draws a picture of Jesus*


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*draws a picture of Jesus*


You're lucky that's allowed in Christianity. Just don't draw Muhammad.


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You're lucky that's allowed in Christianity. Just don't draw Muhammad.


Whaaat? Not the religion of peace that totally isn't horrible.

You hear about this recent thing where they were expecting 10,000 Muslims to show up to a "Peace March" in Europe? I think in Germany. Only a couple hundred actually showed up though apparently.


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What does that have to do with free will?




Well, Surtur said,



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If Jesus loves us why is flesh eating bacteria a thing that exists?




And I said,



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Because God respects human FREE WILL.




I said that because when Adam (the “first” man, and human created by God) sinned, the consequence was “death” (or the “curse”). Death has many “forms” or manners whereby it is “manifested”. Flesh-eating bacteria, sickness, disease, cancer, STDs, A.I.D.S., sickle cell disease, influenza (here’s an exhaustive list: click https://www.cdc.gov/diseasesconditions/az/a.html) are just “some” of the “many” ways that death is manifested—and, Adam’s fault.



You see, God created Adam with the power of “choice” or “free will” (which result in either “blessing” or “curse” depending on how Adam uses his free will). Adam “chose” to disobey God. That “choice” caused “death” (both spiritual death and eventually, later on in his life, physical death).



The “curse” (which was the direct “effect” of Adam’s “choice” to sin) “adversely” affected nature (i.e. the universe, seas, oceans, rivers, lakes, ponds, ground, all vegetation, vegetables, fruits, plants, flowers, trees, sun, stars, moon, planets, atmosphere, weather, sea creatures, fowls of the air, land creatures/animals, insects, etc. and humanity).



This is why things “die” or “decay”.



For example, grass turns “fallow” if not watered, fruits and vegetables oxidize, decay, and turn “brown”, and smell putrid if cut open and exposed to air, or go uneaten after a certain period of time. Animal flesh (i.e. meat) decays and becomes rotten. All of these “effects” are manifestations of “death”, which resulted from Adam’s “choice” to sin and disobey God.



You see, with free will comes “great responsibility”.



God did “not” want an automaton, or robot that just did whatever it was programmed to do. God wanted a man and woman that had the same power of “choice” and “free will” that He has, so He created Adam and Even with free wills.



But, remember: free will comes with responsibility.



For example, terrorism, racism, murder, rape, child molestations, sex trafficking, slavery etc. exist because people are using their free wills (i.e. power to choose) “irresponsibly”, or in the “wrong” way (just like Adam).



However, it is no more God’s fault that people use their power of choice in the wrong way, than it is the fault of law enforcement that criminals use their power of choice in the wrong way (did police officers put their guns to the heads of these criminals and force them to commit their crimes?).



It is no more God’s fault that people use their power of choice in the wrong way, than it is the fault of every parent on Earth that their children use their power of choice in the wrong way (have “you” ever “chose” to disobey your parents—even “once”?).



It is no more God’s fault that people use their power of choice in the wrong way, than it is the fault of the Jews that Adolf Hitler and his Nazi regime used their power of choice in the wrong way (did the Jews “ask” to be burned alive, gassed, starved, and treated inhumanely by Adolf Hitler and his Nazi regime?).



So are police officers, parents, and the Jews to “blame” for the “actions” of others? Absolutely “not”.



Well, “neither” is God.


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That did not explain anything. How do you "choose" to be infected with flesh eating bacteria? How does a 3-year-old "choose" to get cancer?


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That did not explain anything. How do you "choose" to be infected with flesh eating bacteria? How does a 3-year-old "choose" to get cancer?




Adam's "choice" to sin introduced the "curse" into the world. As a result, we are all at the mercy of the "effect" of the curse if we are not born again—“and” don’t know how to walk by faith. Through faith in the “Word of God”, and the “Name” of Jesus we can overcome “many” right now, and eventually “all” at a later date, of the effects of the curse that Adam let into the world through his sin/disobedience.



We only have the "power" or "authority" to resist “many” right now, and eventually “all” at a later date, aspects of this curse (such as all sickness and disease, premature death, poverty, the second death, which is the Lake of Fire, etc.) through the Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ—which has “redeemed” every believer in Him from the curse of the law (which is the curse that resulted from Adam’s sin).



You see, the “law” represents the “Word or Will of God”. When Adam disobeyed God’s Word/Will the curse entered the world, and “death” through sin. Flesh-eating bacteria (and all other sicknesses and diseases) are manifestations of death (which has many forms, with sickness and disease just being one form).



Moreover, Adam “disobeyed” God, but the Lord Jesus (Who is referred to as the “last Adam”—“obeyed” God. Again, the “last Adam” (i.e. Jesus Christ) did what the “first Adam” failed to do. Jesus Christ obeyed God—thus causing “everyone” Who “believes” in Him to be “born again”, and free from the curse of the law.



Again, through faith in the “Word of God”, and the “Name” of Jesus we can overcome “many” right now, and eventually “all” at a later date, of the effects of the curse that Adam let into the world through his sin/disobedience.


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Why would we be subjected to the punishment for a crime committed by someone thousands of years ago? That seems deeply unfair.


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Why would we be subjected to the punishment for a crime committed by someone thousands of years ago? That seems deeply unfair.


Lol the reason is...cuz reasons. Cuz Jesus and angels and miracles and all those special things. That is the answer to your question.

Cuz otherwise the answer would be "cuz it's all stupid bullshit".

Or just that God hates us all. There is a deep hatred there if we are being punished for shit some d-bag did thousands of years ago.


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Lol the reason is...cuz reasons. Cuz Jesus and angels and miracles and all those special things. That is the answer to your question.

Cuz otherwise the answer would be "cuz it's all stupid bullshit".


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Nice one, I guess?


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for a second you thought i hacked your webcam, eh? :O


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for a second you thought i hacked your webcam, eh? :O


Since I do not own a web cam it would indeed be a neat trick for me to think it was hacked.


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Why would we be subjected to the punishment for a crime committed by someone thousands of years ago? That seems deeply unfair.




It's "not" unfair.



Question: have "you" ever sinned (even "once")?



Besides, the Lord Jesus took our sin punishment. Plus, I said
that,



"... Jesus Christ obeyed God—thus causing “everyone” Who “believes” in Him to be “born again”, and free from the curse of the law.



Again, through faith in the “Word of God”, and the “Name” of Jesus we can overcome “many” right now, and eventually “all” at a later date, of the effects of the curse that Adam let into the world through his sin/disobedience."



So you have "freedom" from the curse of the law, and you can resist the curse in the Name of Jesus.


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Lol the reason is...cuz reasons. Cuz Jesus and angels and miracles and all those special things. That is the answer to your question.

Cuz otherwise the answer would be "cuz it's all stupid bullshit".

Or just that God hates us all. There is a deep hatred there if we are being punished for shit some d-bag did thousands of years ago.




Have "you" ever sinned (even once)?



Besides, the Lord Jesus took our sin punishment. Plus, I said
that,



"... Jesus Christ obeyed God—thus causing “everyone” Who “believes” in Him to be “born again”, and free from the curse of the law.



Again, through faith in the “Word of God”, and the “Name” of Jesus we can overcome “many” right now, and eventually “all” at a later date, of the effects of the curse that Adam let into the world through his sin/disobedience."



So you have "freedom" from the curse of the law, and you can resist the curse in the Name of Jesus.


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