Indeed, ghosts being real is indeed silly. I wouldn't whine and throw a b*tch fit if someone pointed this out. It is silly, full stop. Difference is I'm not trying to shove my silly beliefs down the throats of others. So I'm still waiting for the "gotcha" part, where does it come?
Query though, as someone who seems to at least try to give the appearance of intelligence: are all silly things in life equally silly?
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Shit, you're really worried about perceived intelligence in a e-forum. Lol
Difference is nobody is trying to shove you anything down your throat here, so that excuse of yours is out. And no, not all things are equally silly, but we are not discussing that buddy.
Unless you want this to derail into 'my beliefs are slightly less retarded cause hurrr dur'? Lol
Who said people here try to shove it down anyone's throat? We're discussing religion in general: so the "excuse" certainly isn't out, it's quite in.
This is not really about silly beliefs, it's about beliefs that lead to harm. Like I said, I can agree thinking ghosts are real could be seen as silly. On top of that, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny are also silly things. I tend not to care because folk aren't out there twisting those beliefs into things that can potentially do harm.
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You've used way too many double-negatives, so I'm not even quite sure what you're trying to say, but if I do understand you right: Believing that one's soul rises out of your skull after death with similar capacities that we have in this world requires a similar jump in faith to the existence of God, for which there is also little to no evidence. That's why it's hypocritical for you to be adamant that there is no God, but that our souls carry on after death.
Unless of course some new and fascinating scientific facts come in...
Even seemingly harmless irrational beliefs (i.e. beliefs that contradict science) like crackers turning into the body of some religious figure can have significant consequences. Surt, you don't like Muslims harming Jews in the name of their religion, do you? Well here you go, Sam Harris lays out a very curious example of established Christianity doing it with some seemingly harmless irrational dogma...
Your belief that our souls rise out of us after we die would be perfectly good irrational evidence to ban the extremely promising medical treatment of stem cells. And indeed that very reasoning was used to stop it at the federal level.
So what do you say we keep the discourse rational and firmly planted in this world, eh?
Originally posted by Surtur Indeed, ghosts being real is indeed silly. I wouldn't whine and throw a b*tch fit if someone pointed this out. It is silly, full stop. Difference is I'm not trying to shove my silly beliefs down the throats of others. So I'm still waiting for the "gotcha" part, where does it come?
Query though, as someone who seems to at least try to give the appearance of intelligence: are all silly things in life equally silly?
Originally posted by Surtur Who said people here try to shove it down anyone's throat? We're discussing religion in general: so the "excuse" certainly isn't out, it's quite in.
This is not really about silly beliefs, it's about beliefs that lead to harm. Like I said, I can agree thinking ghosts are real could be seen as silly. On top of that, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny are also silly things. I tend not to care because folk aren't out there twisting those beliefs into things that can potentially do harm.
Again, I'm not talking about that. But about you finding their beliefs to be silly, and actively ridiculizing them, not criticizing them.
Originally posted by Emperordmb They aren't incompatible if you posit the logical conclusion that if a God created the universe scientific laws and fact are his direct word.
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Yes but only a fool would posit the existence of some supernatural God.
Originally posted by Surtur
Indeed, ghosts being real is indeed silly. I wouldn't whine and throw a b*tch fit if someone pointed this out. It is silly, full stop. Difference is I'm not trying to shove my silly beliefs down the throats of others. So I'm still waiting for the "gotcha" part, where does it come?
Query though, as someone who seems to at least try to give the appearance of intelligence: are all silly things in life equally silly?
Easy for you to say because you haven't witnessed and/or experienced strange stuff.
There are mysteries of this universe which I don't think science is close to unlock anytime soon.
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Originally posted by Greatest I am Yes but only a fool would posit the existence of some supernatural God.
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You mean like almost all of the US's founding fathers, all of the US's presidents, Sir Isaac Newton, Georges Lemaître (the Catholic Priest who first came up with the Big Bang theory), John Locke (the father of liberalism whose political philosophy is the basis for much of the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution), Galileo Galilei, not to mention Ben Shapiro (whose a brilliant debater even if you don't agree with his political stances), etc.
This isn't an argument for the correctness of a belief in God, but it's certainly a misconception that atheism has some kinda monopoly on intelligence, smart people, or even science.
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The founders of the United States, the man who discovered gravity, the inventor of the big bang theory, the father of liberalism, one of the greatest astronomers in history and... Ben Shapiro.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD Easy for you to say because you haven't witnessed and/or experienced strange stuff.
There are mysteries of this universe which I don't think science is close to unlock anytime soon.
I just put up a new O.P. that has a link you should follow to see just how bright the ancient ones were about God and just stupid we are today in our thinking of Gods.
Just because the majority claim to be religious does not mean that any of the Gods are the way idol worshipers of today claim they are.
The majority of religionists are homophobic and misogynous and religions should be judged by their morality and as you can see, most of the religious are not moral people.