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Smasandian
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Aside from Andromeda, Bioware hasn't produce a bad game. I don't get the mentality of "kill it off" when they can still produce quality titles.

But I guess we are in the age of, "if it's not perfect, it's a pile of garbage" era of video games. Well...at least for AAA developers.

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And I'd argue that Andromeda isn't a bad game. Does some things very well, misstepped in others. But I'd still consider it an okay game.


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And I'd argue that Andromeda isn't a bad game. Does some things very well, misstepped in others. But I'd still consider it an okay game.


I'd agree. It's actually got a lot going for it.


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Aside from Andromeda, Bioware hasn't produce a bad game. I don't get the mentality of "kill it off" when they can still produce quality titles.

But I guess we are in the age of, "if it's not perfect, it's a pile of garbage" era of video games. Well...at least for AAA developers.
You don't get it because you and I are different premise entirely.

If you hold the opinion that DA2, DAI, TOR and MEA were all trash from both a writing and gameplay perspective, while ME3 was awful from a writing one, Bioware ceases to fit in the category of "flawed but pretty good overall." They're in the "these people haven't made an overall great game in almost ten years" category.

As for the strawman about a game/company needing to be perfect or else it's trash, nah the playerbase is frankly way more accepting of the industry's shitty business practices then it should be. You think peoples' standards are too high because you have none.


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lol at blax's "you committed a strawman so here's a false dilemma."

Haha. Fuckin' classic Blax.


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And I'd argue that Andromeda isn't a bad game. Does some things very well, misstepped in others. But I'd still consider it an okay game.


Part of me wants to defend Andromeda somewhat kind of but I feel there were too many steps backwards with that game. Sometimes, it's the little things that matter and when those little things have been in every Bioware game up until now, you take notice and it feels frickin weird!


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Yeah, I would agree with that. It felt really disjointed and you can't really defend the bugs it had.

I feel like the game could of been something special if they spent more time in regards to the planet building idea. If you actually spent time turning planets into vibrant colonies...that would of been fun. They didn't nail the frontier feel either. In my opinion, the game should of been a space version of Wyatt Earp but instead of towns, it's planets.

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First step to uh oh. Mass Effect writer leaves Bioware.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/m...-/1100-6457319/


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Mass Effect trilogy will be my last Bioware title.

Glad I got it, and most of the dlc, but **** EA.


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Well at least the writing for Anthem would be done by now, probably.


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Am going to be “wait and see” with Anthem. But if it even has a hint of lootboxes or non-aesthetic microtransactions in the game, I won’t even touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Chances are, it will. So I’ll likely give this game a pass.

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Well at least the writing for Anthem would be done by now, probably.


Yeah, this isn't that big of a deal if they've probably finished off the writing. It could be that her work on it was done and she just left. The same thing just happened to Obsidian for Deadfire which is coming out in a month.


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Yeah, it's not like he was frustrated and left. He was rehired for a specific purpose and fulfilled that purpose, so his job is done. Think this is getting kinda blown out of proportion.


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Yep!!

I guess we should expect developers to keep every single person in the company for all eternity. But discount the fact that people require change, move or try new careers.

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No romances, no companions, no character customization, and no offline play.

RIP Bioware.


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This game really doesn't look very good imo. Combat looks super generic and I see none of the hallmarks of a good bioware game being shown, like side characters or world building. I'm extremely underwhelmed and I didn't have very high expectations in the first place. Maybe we'll see more and a better representation at the Microsoft conference tomorrow.


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It doesn't look terrible. Combat does look a tad generic but if they can pull this off as an open world story driven cooperative shooter without any microtransactions, it could do where Destiny struggled and be fun. Otherwise RIP Bioware indeed.


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It's a loot shooter. It's what people want these days.

I think the game looks very interesting from a "world" perspective but I will wait and see before making a major judgments.

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You don't get it because you and I are different premise entirely.

If you hold the opinion that DA2, DAI, TOR and MEA were all trash from both a writing and gameplay perspective, while ME3 was awful from a writing one, Bioware ceases to fit in the category of "flawed but pretty good overall." They're in the "these people haven't made an overall great game in almost ten years" category.

As for the strawman about a game/company needing to be perfect or else it's trash, nah the playerbase is frankly way more accepting of the industry's shitty business practices then it should be. You think peoples' standards are too high because you have none.


Oh wow. This is the most objective, even handed, well adjusted response I've seen here.

I feel exactly the same way every time people get offended for telling them they are shit, everything they like is shit, and they're shits for not accepting my reasonable opinions. thumb up


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No romances, no companions, no character customization, and no offline play.

RIP Bioware.


That seemed obvious from the beginning. This game was never going to be anything then a Destiny clone.

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