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krisblaze
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I always wondered how the **** people think Hulk would touch Superman?

Nevermind the fact that Hulk's absolute strength heights are things Superman can accomplish on a daily basis with mild incentive (barring WB).

How would he ever lay a hand on Superman?


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Same way everyone else does...


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He was like the only decent poster in politics though. sad

Everyone else just liked to troll.


After banning Jake for all his death threat threads it's not like they could let Fly get away with his behavior.


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Same way everyone else does...


So Savage Hulk is going to land a hit via PIS? Makes sense.


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So Savage Hulk is going to land a hit via PIS? Makes sense.


If all of Supes' battles are PIS, he's essentially featless on forums... thanks, Surtu, good to know thumb up


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If all of Supes' battles are PIS, he's essentially featless on forums... thanks, Surtu, good to know thumb up


Failing to utilize a super power at the proper time in order to further along the plot doesn't really leave a person featless. The guy has plenty of feats, but he also has a weird amnesia virus when it comes to his super speed.

Or we could say it like this: if Superman decides he wants to avoid every single punch thrown by Hulk that is well within his capabilities.


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Clark can hold a full planning session with a Flash within a few seconds or some such.

Hulk may as well he Mr. X to Pietro here.


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Failing to utilize a super power at the proper time in order to further along the plot doesn't really leave a person featless. The guy has plenty of feats, but he also has a weird amnesia virus when it comes to his super speed.

Or we could say it like this: if Superman decides he wants to avoid every single punch thrown by Hulk that is well within his capabilities.


I think that it is more reasonable to say that there are some unspecified comicbook reasons that he is unable to consistently utilize superspeed in battle than to say that he is too dumb to do so.

Also, if characters were mandated to use superspeed consistently, comics would end up either giving all characters such speed or none of them.

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I always wondered how the **** people think Hulk would touch Superman?

Nevermind the fact that Hulk's absolute strength heights are things Superman can accomplish on a daily basis with mild incentive (barring WB).

How would he ever lay a hand on Superman?


Post those fts in Leo thread that puts him above people like Savage Hulk.


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I think that it is more reasonable to say that there are some unspecified comicbook reasons that he is unable to consistently utilize superspeed in battle than to say that he is too dumb to do so.

Also, if characters were mandated to use superspeed consistently, comics would end up either giving all characters such speed or none of them.


I don't actually think he's too dumb to utilize his speed. There are indeed characters where you could legitimately argue their intelligence is a factor when it comes to why the don't utilize their powers, but Superman is not one of them. So in his case we have no in-story reason why he doesn't.

It's just that in order to keep the plot rolling along he doesn't use it. To be fair the point of comics is to entertain and it's more entertaining to see some super powered battle as opposed to Superman just quickly and efficiently ending a fight.


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Yeah, but how far can that explanation give the bug guns an excuse every to they lose a fight or do poorly in a fight they have no business struggling with?


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Yeah, but how far can that explanation give the bug guns an excuse every to they lose a fight or do poorly in a fight they have no business struggling with?


Ultimately, one must simply deal with how things are portrayed without figuring out why. Comics.

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I don't actually think he's too dumb to utilize his speed. There are indeed characters where you could legitimately argue their intelligence is a factor when it comes to why the don't utilize their powers, but Superman is not one of them. So in his case we have no in-story reason why he doesn't.

It's just that in order to keep the plot rolling along he doesn't use it. To be fair the point of comics is to entertain and it's more entertaining to see some super powered battle as opposed to Superman just quickly and efficiently ending a fight.


And this is the reason why we don't give Surfer a 10/10 against Thanos or Odin via opening a black hole in their brains. We do not ignore what happens in comics.


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Superman 10/10. Starts way stronger is on top faster and the smarter h2h fighter.


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And this is the reason why we don't give Surfer a 10/10 against Thanos or Odin via opening a black hole in their brains. We do not ignore what happens in comics.


The difference is I don't recall Surfer ever having opened up a black hole inside someones brain. If he has shown the capability to do that in the past then sure, why couldn't he? Do you truly find the discussion more interesting if a character is gimped because (insert reason)? Seems like a hollow victory if you only win because the other person just decided not to defeat you as opposed to actually being stronger. Odin can destroy galaxies, if Surfer had a way to quickly put him down we need a good reason he would allow himself to be killed. I am not saying Surfer has a way to quickly put Odin down, but if he did? It would be silly to say he wouldn't use it merely because he just doesn't do it often in a comic.

Whereas Superman has used speed on many occasions so we know he has the capability to move so fast Hulk can't tag him.


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It's like saying that in 90% of his fights, Superman punches, rather than kicks - therefore, in a forum fight, he is incapable of kicking someone.

We don't ignore what happens in comics etc etc. Sure, Juntai or Phildo or Abhi or someone MAY have 2 or 3 scans of him kicking, but in the vast majority of his fights, he punches.

Therefore, he cannot kick, and would lose to Batroc.


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It's like saying that in 90% of his fights, Superman punches, rather than kicks - therefore, in a forum fight, he is incapable of kicking someone.

We don't ignore what happens in comics etc etc. Sure, Juntai or Phildo or Abhi or someone MAY have 2 or 3 scans of him kicking, but in the vast majority of his fights, he punches.

Therefore, he cannot kick, and would lose to Batroc.
Even better, I can show him use superspeed kicks:

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Yeah but in most of his fights, he doesn't use his kicks.

He has super-strength, but it's limited to his upper body only.

Upper body strength =/= Lower body strength.


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Hulk eats him

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Yeah but in most of his fights, he doesn't use his kicks.

He has super-strength, but it's limited to his upper body only.

Upper body strength =/= Lower body strength.
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He clearly skips leg day:

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