No, it supports that he would only through very few kicks in a fight, not that he he is incapable of kicking. All boxers are cabable of slipping punches. Likewise, all boxers are hit by repeated punches. It's what is expected.
In an average fight, combatants punch at least 90% of the time because kicking is difficult, inefficient and risky. That is why kickboxing contests have to require a minimum number so kicks by rule.
In 100% of fights, combatants make 100% effort to avoid getting hit, thus when they do get hit, it is certainly due to a failure in that moment to do so. Thus, by logic, when Superman gets hit, it is due to a failure in his effort to not get hit. Logic.
So using this logic, Superman has NO superspeed. Either that, or he is incredibly stupid, or, he is incredibly masochistic.
Yet, you just used the logic that combatants (or at least, average ones) know NOT to kick, because it is difficult, inefficient, and risky. Assuming this is the same reasoning that goes through Superman's mind when fighting (better not kick, as it's difficult, inefficient, and risky!) you are now saying...he is simultaneously smart at fighting, and dumb, and allows himself to be hit?
Because of course, another logical deduction is that he has NO superspeed. But then....we have scans of him fighting at superspeed. So he has it.
The last conclusion that might be reached, is that for the sake of plot, he doesn't use it. As it would turn every fight into a single panel.
But this is a forum fight now.
Edit: and using the logic you have in your post, if the scans support that he would throw very few kicks in a fight (but that he WOULD throw kicks), that means he WOULD use his superspeed....but what, for 10% of a fight? Then decide gee, better slow down! Oh crap, Hulk is beating me to death, better stay at this speed which I stay at for 90% of my fights!
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wait, wait, are you saying that it's not because superman wasn't TRYING to dodge, but rather he isn't dodging because he's a comic book character and the writer would rather have a cool looking fight for the sake of plot than have him dance around all the bricks he faces all the time?
1. He has no superspeed.
2. He is stupid and has superspeed, but doesn't use it
3. He has it, but loves getting punched
4. He has it, but plot dictates a sexy fight, where the hero struggles and gets tagged.
We know 1 isn't true. 2? He's a top rate investigative reporter, of the House of El, a famous scientific family from one of the most advanced civilisations in the DCU. 3? Maybe...
Oh so we are now resorting to editoria/writer reasons? I can argue that since Surfer can go intangible, Superman would never hit him? J'onn beats Superman every time right?
Course not. But we have CIP and CIS on this forum, both of which apply to Surfer and J'onn.
Opening black holes in people's heads is very different from actively trying to avoid being hit. Selecting one of Surfer and J'onn's many powers is different from being superfast.
Otherwise, you'll be arguing that Captain Boomerang is a serious threat to Flash, because...he throws shaped wooden sticks, like, really skillfully.
Lol at people trying to throw what happens in comics in the trash while at the same time creating a character that doesn't exist due to him fighting in ways that does not exist. KMC for the win.
I have seen Superman fans defend Superman against the above Darkseid showing by saying that he needs to shift into super speed gear in order to respond.
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You: "In 100% of fights, combatants make 100% effort to avoid getting hit, thus when they do get hit, it is certainly due to a failure in that moment to do so. Thus, by logic, when Superman gets hit, it is due to a failure in his effort to not get hit. Logic."
Me: Proof Superman gets hits on purpose.
You: But here's a picture of Darkseid grabbing speed of sound Superman in 1987, 30 years ago.
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(a) not very well i'd imagine, though i had someone telling me hulk was at least quicksilver speed, so...maybe he just dodges the punches?
(b) i'd forgotten that in that rex scan superman admitted, again, that dd previously couldn't feel pain. that whole can feel pain/can't feel pain debate was....exceedingly painful, but i don't recall the rex scan being shown as further proof that dd really didn't feel pain in that fight.
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Jun 17th, 2017 04:22 PM
why doesn't Superman speedblitz?
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