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Doc Samson Vs Wolverine
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StiltmanFTW
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Let's assume Samshot can indeed one-shot Logan... in a non-bfr scenario --- okay, then he needs some SERIOUS speed. He doesn't have it.

Wolverine does. And the claws that went right through Terminus and penetrated Gladiator's shoulder and Hulk's skull can surely one-shot Samson.


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Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually as noted by wolverine he has died HUNDREDS of times. Every time he died he fought Lazaer and if Wolverine defeated him, he got to come back to life. He eventually lost this immortality and wolverine commented his healing factor was diminished. Drowning could always kill him as he noted but don't see Sampson using that here

Now on that note. I do think wolverine can win this

I think he can, too.

I'm (personally) just commenting on some of the outrageous claims being made, like he never gets hit, or just going to beat Samson down in a fist fight, sans claws.


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Ok. Logan ftw.

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Originally posted by leonidas
yeah i don't really find this thread to be even debatable tbh. logan has also downed the abomination iirc. samson has essentially no shot, not if we go by comics and accumulated feats. /shrug

If you're going there, Samson has KOd the hilk (with context). Wolverine has been KOd by much less power than that.

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Originally posted by leonidas
yeah i don't really find this thread to be even debatable tbh. logan has also downed the abomination iirc. samson has essentially no shot, not if we go by comics and accumulated feats. /shrug
the only reason it's still being debated is because any time a wolverine vs thread comes out, at least one poster says "No. Logan getting hit by a 100 tonner would kill him!" in spite of all of the showings to the contrary. Several posters then proceed to jump on the bandwagon and say "yeah, one punch will leave him without his skin!" and they proceed to back this up by providing scans without the context, low showings, and generally bringing real world logic into a comic book debate.

I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just letting you know what the pattern is.


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If you're going there, Samson has KOd the hilk (with context). Wolverine has been KOd by much less power than that.

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and he's easily tanked more than that too--too many times to ignore.

sure samson has a couple decent showings. no one is saying he doesn't. but if you go the route you just did he REALLY has no shot because you're choosing to look at his best feats. if we go by best feats samson gets utterly and completely buried. if we look at their respect averages, logan kills him without all that much trouble. his showings against bricks is simply too telling, as are his feats. for samson to have any chance here we literally have to ignore....dozens upon dozens of logan's feats. and i'm not talking about his best ones. samson has no great healing feats even to try and keep him in this. like i said, he really doesn't stand almost any chance here, barring flat out ignoring logan's history. /shrug


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Originally posted by riv6672
He said 'beat' not 'kill'.
But i get that didnt fit your narrative, so you ignored it for your rant.

'lol'
This is Doc Samson we're talking about here. He punches moderately hard.

So when I read ' a thousand ways to beat' yeah, I went a little hysterical and ranted a bit.

But until I bring reality and math into the discussion thumb up

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At Deathslash thumb up

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Let's assume Samshot can indeed one-shot Logan... in a non-bfr scenario --- okay, then he needs some SERIOUS speed. He doesn't have it.

Wolverine does. And the claws that went right through Terminus and penetrated Gladiator's shoulder and Hulk's skull can surely one-shot Samson.
Good argument. The problem is he does have speed. He can generate faster than bullet speed punches. Barring PIS, Logan is not dodging that type of speed.


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Good argument. The problem is he does have speed. He can generate faster than bullet speed punches. Barring PIS, Logan is not dodging that type of speed.
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Even if you are right, Logan doesn't have to dodge. He takes it and retaliates.
If his claws are out Doc dies.

For KMC's sake, read Wolverine #1 onwards.

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Gorgon DID kick Wolvey to Georgia...

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But yeah, someone as smart as Doc SHOULD be able to figure it out. Whether he is fast enough, though, is another matter.


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Lol they speak english there?


I've encountered many people from all over Europe who speak perfectly competent English as a second language, so it's certainly plausible. I'd be scratching my head more that Wolverine didn't notice the accent than the farmer happens to speak English.


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Originally posted by emu
This is Doc Samson we're talking about here. He punches moderately hard.

So when I read ' a thousand ways to beat' yeah, I went a little hysterical and ranted a bit.

But until I bring reality and math into the discussion thumb up

Yeah, you were wrong. I got that part.


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Originally posted by leonidas
and he's easily tanked more than that too--too many times to ignore.

sure samson has a couple decent showings. no one is saying he doesn't.

Actually the implication has been, he doesnt.
Of course ppl are also claiming Wolverine doesnt get hit, and could beat Samson up with just his fists.

The scans i posted were just in response to leonidas' huge low balls.
Just to show outrageous claims work both ways.


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Yeah, you were wrong. I got that part.
Thanks for schooling me.
Let me know when you know anything about anything else.

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Christ lol

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Just realised riv has a thing for Leo's balls.

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How many bricks has Logan killed?

More specifically, how many bricks of the 70 ton level and above?
Anyone? Anyone?

Or, simply defeated? Im just curious.

Funny thing... I had conceded and decided that Logan takes this match. But, the more emu contributes, the more Im thinking I was correct in backing Samson.

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He has that effect. Might be the almost constant use of 'lol'. Hard to take someone seriously who's perpetually giggling to and at himself.
Ever see that in RL? Creepy.


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Lulz.

C'mon guys, don't be like that. Just read a Wolverine comic or two.

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