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Hey, um.. Belts don't change hands on doctor stops, do they?

Takamura aiming for Eagles eye as opposed to the latter's sportsmanship is good drama, but thinking about it he could have cost himself his shot


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It goes to points.

I guess Takamura should have been ahead in points. Maybe.

Who the hell knows the way they do things. Wouldn't surprise me if the judges are reading hentai instead of watching the match, with some of their decisions.


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Hey, um.. Belts don't change hands on doctor stops, do they?

Takamura aiming for Eagles eye as opposed to the latter's sportsmanship is good drama, but thinking about it he could have cost himself his shot
They do. A doctor stop would have been a TKO. Any sane ref would have stopped the fight. Throw I. The fact that Takamura had to foul to win and it's pretty clear Eagle is the superior boxer. wink

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It goes to points.

I guess Takamura should have been ahead in points. Maybe.

Who the hell knows the way they do things. Wouldn't surprise me if the judges are reading hentai instead of watching the match, with some of their decisions.
Wait till you see the Vorg world title fight. laughing out loud

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More then anything, I want to see Takamura tackle the heavier classes.

In real life, heavyweights are damned monsters. thumb up


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To date he has never fought a weight class above Eagle's so better get comfy.

He does get a pretty baller fight though in the form of a title unification bout.


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Dying from Broccoman.

Takamura's reactions at being upstaged by a clown are priceless.


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Why is Vorg sitting at world ranked #6 already?

While Ippo, the national champion with six successful title defenses, is only at 12?

That's just crazy.. I don't care how talented Vorg is, you don't drop off the map for a year and suddenly contend for the world overnight.


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Why is Vorg sitting at world ranked #6 already?

While Ippo, the national champion with six successful title defenses, is only at 12?

That's just crazy.. I don't care how talented Vorg is, you don't drop off the map for a year and suddenly contend for the world overnight.
Because Ippo's trainer and manager are incompetent. By that point, should have dropped the JBC title and started exclusively pursuing higher ranked opponents. By the time Ippo beat Karasawa, he should tossed the JBC title like a bad dream. Then again, I suppose that would mean having to go fight someplace besides Japan. God forbid Ippo or Takamura ever fight in a different country.

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Because Ippo's trainer and manager are incompetent. By that point, should have dropped the JBC title and started exclusively pursuing higher ranked opponents


Even so (And I totally agree! smile ), how long was it between Vorgs visit and #6?

Ippo's entire career is only, what, three years by that point? And everyone claimed he just wasn't resting properly after Sawamura (They said something about his latest fight giving only a month to prepare.)

So what did Vorg do? Challenge the world unranked out of the gate, and some high rankers thought it would be cute to cut the boastful nobody down, and whoops he's a Mary Sue, Vorg is now rank 6 in a week? eek!


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Even so (And I totally agree! smile ), how long was it between Vorgs visit and #6?

Ippo's entire career is only, what, three years by that point? And everyone claimed he just wasn't resting properly after Sawamura (They said something about his latest fight giving only a month to prepare.)

So what did Vorg do? Challenge the world unranked out of the gate, and some high rankers thought it would be cute to cut the boastful nobody down, and whoops he's a Mary Sue, Vorg is now rank 6 in a week? eek!
Maybe Vorg ran into an Apollo Creed who wanted to give an unknown bum fighter a shot much like in the Rocky 1 movie and ended up biting off more than he could chew. But I agree. Vorg basically has everything handed to him on a silver platter as a result of popularity and Mori retconning his boxing abilities. All this crap about being Date level while outboxing is refuted by Vorg's own statements while fighting Ippo. laughing out loud

And what did you think of Ippo getting beaten by Imai? How pathetic is that! laughing

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Yeah Morikawa does sorta hand wave to keep the rival characters relevant.

That said I could see the higher ranks picking a young talented Russian boxer to beat up for good publicity defending their country.

Sendou is worse though. He's actually ranked 4th in the world. Only explanation we get for it was him going after Mexican Featherweights.


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Kamogawa on the World "He's not ready!"

Everyone he ever beat becomes top five world.


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Maybe Vorg ran into an Apollo Creed who wanted to give an unknown bum fighter a shot much like in the Rocky 1 movie and ended up biting off more than he could chew. But I agree. Vorg basically has everything handed to him on a silver platter as a result of popularity and Mori retconning his boxing abilities. All this crap about being Date level while outboxing is refuted by Vorg's own statements while fighting Ippo. laughing out loud

And what did you think of Ippo getting beaten by Imai? How pathetic is that! laughing


The sparring match?

He totally should have won the Rookie King imo. On points.

How does "Hajime no Imani" sound? smile


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Kamogawa on the World "He's not ready!"

Everyone he ever beat becomes top five world.


To be fair Ippo definitely doesn't have the mentality to take on the world.


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At the point I'm at, you just need to put a challenge in front of him, and he forgets Miyata for awhile.

Speaking of: the ref's must have a pretty crappy benefits package. They all seem completely 100% blind

*Elbow elbow headbutt elbow*

Entire audience: "WTF REF?!"

Aw, who am I kidding, Morikawa is just trolling his audience now. laughing out loud


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That's the problem. Ippo is Kamogawa's well-tuned machine of a boxer but, at least as far as the manga is concerned, that's not good enough for the world.

https://mangastream.com/r/hajime_no_ippo/1079/2620/1

It's a bit spoilery but this chapter illustrates why even though Sendo and Vorg lost, they are still better prepared for the world than Ippo...at least in theory.


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Ippo not being "ready for the world" after 1000+ is horrible writing IMO. The Ippo that beat Karasawa is easily world class material. The mentality stuff is just an excuse to drag out a story arc that could have been wrapped up a long time ago.

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Ippo, I have a feeling Mashiba won't be a problem in your love life for awhile. Not until he gets out of prison for assault and battery, and probably attempted murder. laughing out loud

For what I suspect was a troll on the doubtless flood of fan mail on having them fight each other, Mashiba vs Sawamura was very well done. Everything you'd expect to see, more then you wanted to see, and well done bits you're glad to see. It was memorable, that's for sure.

Personally, I say minus the cheating, Sawamura has Mashiba's number. I mean, Mash NEEDED to cheat, while Saramura did it just because.


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So as of Sawamura's retirement, Aoki and Kimura claim they're 25? And as of Aoki's first title defense of the series, he's been at it 8 years?

I'm up to issue 600 something, about the halfway mark. At this rate, they're gonna be older then Date by series catch up, unless time starts to slow down and Ippo somehow has 50 title defenses in a year and is only on his fourth year of boxing..


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