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UCanShootMyNova
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Originally posted by Kjam
We did.



We know.



Show me where "sub Wyyrock" characters have the ability to maim, kill and resurrect packs of individuals, namely Force sensitive ones, please.



It's not hard to see why you're treated like a sub-human ingrate on this Forum, Syn. English is supposedly you're first language (it isn't mine) and being a 21 year old post grad, one would hope you'd know how to use quotation marks correctly. FYI, the person you're responding to has to actually use the word that's being quoted. Read my comment again and try and find the word lowered.


Then congratulations on pretending ignorance?

They have shown the ability to displace an unanchored spirit into a corporate form. It's never shown to be more or less difficult to do this with Force users then with non Force users and even if it was what reason would the strike team have to resist the efforts of Revan's spirit?

Lmao. You said, and I quote:

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Revan is now ONLY Dooku level, proof?


Which means you believe I lowered him. Given English isn't your first language I can forgive your inability to understand basic sentences.


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Any form of "resurrection" is simply the displacement of an unanchored spirit into a corporeal form. How it was done doesn't really matter since we know it's not something that is any more impressive then Revan's other feats ( even if it was closer to Dark Transfer that's still only Cade level ) which is the point I was making.


It's literally resurrecting a necrotic being, and healing that body from whatever attack Revan killed them with. Please stop trying to lowball this with feats that don't even begin to compare. Transferring a spirit into another body is not the same as reviving a dead being back to full fighting condition.


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I'm not lowballing it because I don't have anything to judge the energy output other then other forms of resurrection we've seen which AREN'T above Revan's other feats.

If you have some proof for why it raises Revan above where he was previously ( aside from the having killed the strike team since I already addressed that ) I'd love to hear it.


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You've read Darth Plagueis, right?

You understand that Dark Transfer can only bring you back from the brink of death and not actual death?

You seem to be misunderstanding the monumental significance of such a feat. It's not just a cheap body swapping feat.

For reference:

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On the same day they had allowed Venamis to die. Then, by manipulating the Bith’s midi-chlorians, which should have been inert and unresponsive, Plagueis had resurrected him. The enormity of the event had stunned Sidious into silence and overwhelmed and addled 11-4D’s processors, but Plagueis had carried on without assistance, again and again allowing Venamis to die and be returned to life, until the Bith’s organs had given out and Plagueis had finally granted him everlasting death.


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The dispersal of midi-chlorians at the moment of physical death was, for lack of a better term, inexorable. Analogous to his fated confrontation with the Woebegone crew, the moment of death appeared to be somehow fixed in space and time. According to his Sith education, since Captain Lah and the others had been in some sense dead from the moment Plagueis’s gaze had alighted on the freighter, it followed that the midi-chlorians that resided in alleged symbiosis with them must have been preparing to be subsumed into the reservoir of life energy that was the Force long before Plagueis had stowed away. His attempts to save them—to prolong that state of symbiosis—were comparable to using a sponge to dam a raging river.


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His election seven years earlier had been one of the signs Plagueis had been waiting for—the return to power of a Valorum—and had followed on the heels of a remarkable breakthrough Plagueis and Sidious had engineered in manipulating midi-chlorians. A breakthrough the Muun had described as “galactonic.” Both of them suspected that the Jedi had sensed it as well, light-years distant on Coruscant.


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[[and had followed on the heels of a remarkable breakthrough Plagueis and Sidious had engineered in manipulating midi-chlorians. A breakthrough the Muun had described as “galactonic.” Both of them suspected that the Jedi had sensed it as well, light-years distant on Coruscant.]]

Wait, you're claiming Plagueis's resurrection of Venamis was the "galactonic event" being referenced. I'm pretty sure that was in reference to their shifting the balance of the Force though it's been a while since I've read the book. Mind giving me the page number?

Even if it was referencing the resurrection there's no way to know if Revan did something similar or, as you yourself suggested, was more akin to something like Dark Transfer.

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if anything it's similar to Dark Transfer


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I made the mistake of reading through the thread.

Reaffirmed my decision on quitting debating.


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Right, Syn went off on an unnecessary tangent when the answer is simple: it's a game mechanic. thumb up


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I made the mistake of reading through the thread.

Reaffirmed my decision on quitting debating.

Imagine that's how other people felt when reading your stuff the last 5 years lol.

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How the **** did you see 'midichlorian manipulation' and think of unbalancing the Force?

Oh and the difference is plainly obvious, the characters are dead and he brings them back to life from a necrotic state into full fighting shape.

Which for those of us too impeccably moronic to understand; takes place in a scripted event that occurs at the beginning of Phase Five of the battle.

One might as well say every fight in SWTOR is a game mechanic, cutscenes and all.


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This was... excruciatingly bad.

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Game mechanic.

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A scripted event referenced by character dialogue and even in-game text, is not a game mechanic.


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A scripted event referenced by character dialogue and even in-game text, is not a game mechanic.


Where is the event referenced by character dialogue?

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It's almost as if you haven't deigned to play the source material.

Shocking.


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lol

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It's almost as if you haven't deigned to play the source material.

Shocking.


It's almost as if you're incapable of citing sources you haven't completely made up.

That's... well, not shocking at all, really.

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It's almost as if you haven't deigned to play the source material.

Shocking.

Gotta love the psuedo ad-hominem instead of providing proof lol.

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I can do so quite easily, if I bother to find the appropriate YouTube video.

But it's so like you to try and take the cheap victory. laughing out loud


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I can do so quite easily, if I bother to find the appropriate YouTube video.


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But it's so like you to try and take the cheap victory. laughing out loud


Careful, now: you're about to derail the thread with flaming. smile

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I'll find it alright, though I'm not doing so on your imaginative timetable. I haven't the time at the moment to go and find a timestamp for you, but I imagine Ant will beat me to it.


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I'll find it alright, though I'm not doing so on your imaginative timetable. I haven't the time at the moment to go and find a timestamp for you, but I imagine Ant will beat me to it.


That's what I thought. thumb up

Though I wouldn't be so eager to advertise the fact that Ant defends your argument better than you do.

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