Just stop. Those families aren't torn apart by us. Did we force them to come here illegally? It's tragic, but it's also on them.
I know we can't round up every illegal. But if ICE agents come across non violent illegals while pursuing the violent ones, they *all* should be taken in.
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And again you troll. Blacks getting convicted more does not mean no whites get convicted. Nor does it grant some magical immunity to me.
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There is not a bus short enough to cater to these folk.
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Okay seriously what did Mike Pence do to gays? Did he say he wants being gay illegal? What makes him this huge monster all these gays have to virtue signal for?
Some dude in the Olympics broke his thumb and is all "at least I don't have to shake Pence's hand, silver lining". Burn....I guess? He's gay too, btw. But being gay isn't that shocking these days. Nobody cares. These people act like this is the 1950's and they are admitting they love communism. Nobody cares who you want to f*ck.
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I mean... For one he openly supports conversion therapy(regardless of what he says nowadays, he did suggest it multiple times in the past), which I won't get into but it's absolutely horrific; he's against gay marriage, generally against intergrating gays with the rest of the world and even Trump has gone on record saying he hates them.
So far, he didn't successfully do anything, but he's been trying to fight against LGBT rights for over a decade.
And yet, from what I heard, he supported something that would give a person the right to choose conversion therapy.
Can you show me anything of him wanting to force gays to do it? Cuz, I guess I have to say what I said better not be true, because it makes any gay whining about him look foolish. Giving someone the option to choose conversion therapy is not anti gay.
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He didn't support the right to "choose", he supported the institutions be funded for people "fixing their sexual behavior". He can't really force you to legally go and change your sexual orientation, because this is the USA not North Korea, but he's still a staunch believer that every homosexual should go to conversion therapy.
Not to mention his bids for Congress also note that homosexual relationships could never be on the same level of importance/validity as a heterosexual relationship, and thus their marriage should be banned. Again, pretty much every time Pence or someone close to him talked about the issue of LGBT rights, it's always in the negative: even allowing "conversion" therapy to be a thing(this includes electroshock, sterilization, extreme medication, physical and mental abuse, etc.); noting a homosexual can't be on equal footing with a heterosexual; allowing a landlord to kick someone out, a boss to fire an employee or a business to deny service because they're gay.
There is scientific research to prove that Homosexuality is a Genetic Disorder. So sad to see people choose what kind of sciences they do and do not believe in.
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It is certainly a genetic/biological deviation, but conversion therapy has by all accounts failed in "curing" it and in fact has far more negative side-effects.
In Surt's defense, he's not neccessarily agreeing with Pence, he just doesn't see why allowing the option of conversion therapy is something to make a big deal about. But it is, very much so.
Especially when you consider that "choice" isn't made by the actual LGBT community, rather their families, as conversion therapy almost exclusively targets teenagers(12-17) who identify as homo/bi/pansexual or are questioning/curious who don't have much power over it if the parents agree to the procedure.
That is true too, but there's a difference between supporting and allowing the option. Not that there should ever be an option for the crap in gay therapy. Not to mention that gay therapy can be forced on the kids without their approval.
But even if you're a coldhearted, let em choose, kinda guy, that's not as bad as actively supporting something.
Okay so we have some true things and some false things then. He personally has never stated he supported these kind of treatments, but he did support federal funds being given to these kinds of places.
So I mean, it's not exactly as gays are saying it. I guess I can understand the anger, but they should use different examples. The other ones given should be the ones people list. There is an explanation for the conversion therapy thing, it doesn't mean he doesn't believe in it, it just means he personally never expressed support. But things like "gays aren't equal to straight people" well, that's pretty straight forward.
So I dunno, controversial medical care that can't be forced on you vs thinking gays just aren't equal to non gays...seems like no contest at all. Yet I've heard way more about electro shock therapy and all that shit with Pence than the other stuff.
The business stuff doesn't surprise me, that's essentially the cake situation the courts are dealing with.
So if he did say the equal footing thing, that should be the first thing these people bring up, if they feel like bringing up anything at all.
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If he supports the government funding those places, then he obviously wants those places to be funded, i.e. he supports them. It's not hard to grasp. Even assuming he doesn't personally support it(which is a pretty absurd notion), he's still one of the biggest advocates for these types of institutions and that in-of-itself is bad.
It just comes down to if he's blissfully ignorant of the sh!t that happens in there and the consequences of it or he knows full well what's in there and he doesn't mind it.
Both options are disturbing.
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