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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rockydonovang
As for the second part, given that HOT was able to only pull a single collum of the wall with strain while a near dead vitiate was collapsing the entire ceiling, I'm not sure how much of that can be attributed to power.
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Jul 28th, 2017 06:31 AM
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Jul 28th, 2017 07:15 AM
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Jul 28th, 2017 07:59 AM
Jaggarath
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Based on the text description, sounds a lot like how other writers would describe a Oneness moment to me.
Regardless, we saw in Clone Wars Legacy that Kenobi couldn't lift that big kyber crystal w/o Anakin's help.
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Jul 28th, 2017 07:55 PM
ares834
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Assuming I read the same passage you were talking about, I don't see anything to suggest it was a moment of "oneness".
Jul 28th, 2017 07:59 PM
Jaggarath
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Stover aside (and even then, debatable), I don't really see Star Wars novels going into deep prologues about the Force imbuing them with life and being enlightened w/o it being an event like Anakin, vs the Vong, Jacen vs Onimi, Luke vs Abeloth, etc.
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Jul 28th, 2017 08:05 PM
Deronn Solo
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Whether it's a showing of Oneness or not, it sure as hell isn't a combat applicable showings, either. Dude rooted himself in the Force, while being in a near meditative state.
Hardly comparable, to guys like Malgus that can instantly release tons upon tons of teleketic power in the spur of the moment, with a single repulse.
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ares834
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Stover aside (and even then, debatable), I don't really see Star Wars novels going into deep prologues about the Force imbuing them with life and being enlightened w/o it being an event like Anakin, vs the Vong, Jacen vs Onimi, Luke vs Abeloth, etc.
I guess I'd need more evidence. The description reads like a meditative trance and not much more.
Jul 28th, 2017 08:13 PM
NewGuy01
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everything is oneness, but some things are more oneness than others.
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Jul 28th, 2017 08:15 PM
ares834
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True enough.
Jul 28th, 2017 08:20 PM
TenebrousWay
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Huh? Obi Wan stabilized Organa's ship and floated it towards a nearby space station under the influence zero gravity. He didn't propel the ship and Organa still had, at minimum, partial control of the ship.
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Jul 28th, 2017 08:27 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rockydonovang
I'll argue Kenobi>Maul
As a swordsmen it's clear cut, pre-prime Kenobi has repeatedly showcased superiority with a blade to maul despite generally unfavorable circumstances. Even in their 1 v 1 on florrum, Kneobi sowed a slight edge via shadow conspiracy despite not even using battle meditation yet(and unlike the portion in the cave there's no contradiction).
As a force user, while Maul has repeatedly tk'd Kenobi, they've all been circumstantial and its spitballing to say maul still has an edge given clone wars: stealth indicating Kneobi can grow much more powerful over the course of a couple of months(TCW is almost a year away from ROTS) in addition to multiple emotional confrontations(per kotor 2 these lead to growth) and physical ones including most importantly Kenobi finally letting go of his attachment to Anakin.
I'd say he beats Maul by this point in time, but in a really good fight.
Jul 28th, 2017 08:42 PM
Jaggarath
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I'll always maintain SoD Maul = RotS Kenobi, tbh.
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Jul 28th, 2017 08:43 PM
Darth Thor
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Yeah roughly. But they won't be exact equals, and so based on Kenobi beating Mustafar Anakin I'd be inclined to give him the majority.
Jul 28th, 2017 08:47 PM
Rockydonovang
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ares834
Assuming I read the same passage you were talking about, I don't see anything to suggest it was a moment of "oneness".
Ant likes baselessly throwing feats he doesn't like out so he doesn't have to address them.
Jul 28th, 2017 10:10 PM
Rockydonovang
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah roughly. But they won't be exact equals, and so based on Kenobi beating Mustafar Anakin I'd be inclined to give him the majority.
ROTS Maul is likely close
TCW Maul vs TCW Kenobi is debatable enough
Jul 28th, 2017 10:12 PM
Jaggarath
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Ant likes baselessly throwing feats he doesn't like out so he doesn't have to address them.
More like Ant has seen the films and TV shows and knows the power Kenobi should be showing, so when he shows something seemingly well beyond his limits, something's probably up.
Looks like TenebrousWay explained it though.
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Jul 28th, 2017 11:15 PM
cs_zoltan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarthAnt66
More like Ant has seen the films and TV shows and knows the power Kenobi should be showing, so when he shows something seemingly well beyond his limits, something's probably up.
You mean how Anakin showed his Yoda tier powers in the films, where you wank him?
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Jul 28th, 2017 11:44 PM
Jaggarath
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Anakin showed his Yoda tier powers against Dooku, when he downed that hoe so fast that even Sidious was jealous.
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Jul 28th, 2017 11:49 PM
cs_zoltan
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You confuse dueling with power. If you go by the moves and TCW Mace can't beat like 30 droids on his own, Yoda struggles with a metal pillar, Anakin gets kicked around by a senator, Dooku can't beat a bunch of pirates, Maul gets floored by a dog etc etc...
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