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Oh no, your point was on point; was noting that. I too find the whatboutary deflections to be crude and petty, Tom Petty. Someone was murdered, have a little class.


Honestly I was just messing with you.

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My point is you say asking what about them being denounced is in bad taste. But again: if not doing so emboldens them...what, we avoid it cuz some might find it in bad taste?

Then if they later kill someone, we can at the very least say we avoided saying something in bad taste.


I'm not saying don't denounce them at all. I'm saying just not right now, as it's kind of shitty.

When they do something wrong though? Yes, denounce them. Just don't do it in some sort of weird "one side is worse than x" way.


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Those people who show up to rallies in masks and attack people with bats and bricks are bad news, need to be locked up.


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Honestly I was just messing with you.



I'm not saying don't denounce them at all. I'm saying just not right now, as it's kind of shitty.

When they do something wrong though? Yes, denounce them. Just don't do it in some sort of weird "one side is worse than x" way.


Dude why not now? Why wait? They already pulled more shit at a really in Seattle now An hour away from the neo nazi rally leftists attacked and beat a dude just for filming their protest. Will the Dems and Repubs come out and say anything?


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Dude why not now? Why wait? They already pulled more shit at a really in Seattle now An hour away from the neo nazi rally leftists attacked and beat a dude just for filming their protest. Will the Dems and Repubs come out and say anything?


Why not now? Because it makes you look like you're excusing what the "Nazis" did, that's why. Even if you aren't, you're still steering the conversation away from the fact that one of those pricks drove a ****ing car in to a group of people, killing at least one.

The dude on the bike? Yeah, I saw that. Pretty shitty behaviour by this assholes.


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you're still steering the conversation away from the fact that one of those pricks drove a ****ing car in to a group of people, killing at least one.


from the moment the story broke it was desperate and constant "BUT ANTIFA". it's almost like he needs to cease all discussion about the murdering nazi. weird.


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Why not now? Because it makes you look like you're excusing what the "Nazis" did, that's why. Even if you aren't, you're still steering the conversation away from the fact that one of those pricks drove a ****ing car in to a group of people, killing at least one.

The dude on the bike? Yeah, I saw that. Pretty shitty behaviour by this assholes.


Why does the convo have to be steered away? Condemn them and move on, then they can talk about the nazi stuff.

You wait to condemn them and they pull more bullshit. If Antifa kills someone, do we blame the Dems and Repubs for emboldening them by not denouncing them? That would happen, correct? But we both know it wouldn't.


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from the moment the story broke it was desperate and constant "BUT ANTIFA". it's almost like he needs to cease all discussion about the murdering nazi. weird.


Actually it was more from the moment dipshits tried to pull bullshit and act like one side wasn't guilty of anything nor was that side full of violent pieces of shit.


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Actually it was more from the moment dipshits tried to pull bullshit and act like one side wasn't guilty of anything nor was that side full of violent pieces of shit.


...he said, desperately deflecting from the topic that makes nazis look bad. weird.

#TryHard4Hitler
#Cucking4Nazis


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...he said, desperately deflecting from the topic that makes nazis look bad. weird.

#TryHard4Hitler
#Cucking4Nazis


We do not need to deflect. We can discuss both pieces of shit. Just because Antifa hasn't killed anyone yet doesn't mean anything, their tactics lead to destruction, violence, and injuries.

But if you shout about nazi bro shields enough it will negate it, I promise.

If this makes me a nazi cuck, it would make you an antifa-cuck. And Nope, one is not better than the other lol.


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We do not need to deflect. We can discuss both pieces of shit. Just because Antifa hasn't killed anyone yet doesn't mean anything, their tactics lead to destruction, violence, and injuries.

But if you shout about nazi bro shields enough it will negate it, I promise.

If this makes me a nazi cuck, it would make you an antifa-cuck. And Nope, one is not better than the other lol.


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We do not need to deflect. We can discuss both pieces of shit. Just because Antifa hasn't killed anyone yet doesn't mean anything, their tactics lead to destruction, violence, and injuries.

But if you shout about nazi bro shields enough it will negate it, I promise.

If this makes me a nazi cuck, it would make you an antifa-cuck. And Nope, one is not better than the other lol.


You say this as if being a NAZI isn't as bad as being apart of a group of punks. Violent hippies are problematic and annoying sure. But the world decided last century in agreement that being a NAZI is bad. Its no longer up for debate or personal opinion. NAZI ideology is evil. Its not for me to decide or anyone else living. After 80 million people died and 1.9 billion people served in the military it became a fact that none of us have any right to dispute. To say otherwise is a spit in the face to people who actually have suffered and paid the ultimate price.

That sounds total and unreasonable and most often I'd be open to a more intellectual and colourful debate. But discussing if being a NAZI is bad, or if it is AS bad as being a typical criminal is something I refuse to do.

Antifa are radicals who believe that Hate Speech is not Free Speech and they believe in direct, sometimes criminal, action. Their end goal is tolerance and probably really annoying PC laws.

Being a NAZI starts with racism, delusions of being superoir and obsession of national security and ends in genocide and invasion.


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For the more radical Antifa goons, the end goal is communism. Which ends in more or less the same way Nazism does: a mountain of corpses and untold human suffering.


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For the more radical Antifa goons, the end goal is communism.


You have proof of this?


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You have proof of this?

Here is one example of a communist Antifa group: https://www.redneckrevolt.org/


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Here is one example of a communist Antifa group: https://www.redneckrevolt.org/
I'm not clicking anything called redneckrevolt, I don't want to be on the same watch list you are.


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I'm not clicking anything called redneckrevolt, I don't want to be on the same watch list you are.

You should. They are communist, Antifa, and self-described 'rednecks'.


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You should. They are communist, Antifa, and self-described 'rednecks'.
According to red neck revolt. Bwahaha are you really serious?


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According to red neck revolt. Bwahaha are you really serious?

I don't get what you're trying to say. Are you saying they are not honest about who they are?


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Why not now? Because it makes you look like you're excusing what the "Nazis" did, that's why. Even if you aren't, you're still steering the conversation away from the fact that one of those pricks drove a ****ing car in to a group of people, killing at least one.

The dude on the bike? Yeah, I saw that. Pretty shitty behaviour by this assholes.
Yeah and they are still at it.


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I don't get what you're trying to say. Are you saying they are not honest about who they are?


I'm curious about this as well. He asked you for proof and refuses to believe it once given.


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