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Wrong.

Anti-Fa was present at the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park. This counter-demonstration was held by peaceful protesters at a wholly different location downtown.

The woman who was murdered was not engaged in any violent activities, she was merely crossing the street. Some of the 19 others who were injured were not even present for the counter-demonstration, but were pedestrians who were leaving a nearby park.

So a Nazi terrorist left a White Nationalist rally, looking for a group to target for violence. He did not choose to use any of the firearms found in his vehicle to shoot members of Anti-Fa at the Unite the Right rally. Rather, he cruised around in his car until he found a soft target of peaceful protesters and bystanders.

This is not extremist-on-extremist violence. This is an extremist coward targeting peaceful people for violence. And it is pathetic to even mention other outside agitators as if that makes terrorism okay.


The violent leftists like Antifa are indeed terrorists though, right?


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The violent leftists like Antifa are indeed terrorists though, right?


The federal government does not appear to categorize them as domestic terrorists.


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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Wrong.

Anti-Fa was present at the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park. This counter-demonstration was held by peaceful protesters at a wholly different location downtown.

The woman who was murdered was not engaged in any violent activities, she was merely crossing the street. Some of the 19 others who were injured were not even present for the counter-demonstration, but were pedestrians who were leaving a nearby park.

So a Nazi terrorist left a White Nationalist rally, looking for a group to target for violence. He did not choose to use any of the firearms found in his vehicle to shoot members of Anti-Fa at the Unite the Right rally. Rather, he cruised around in his car until he found a soft target of peaceful protesters and bystanders.

This is not extremist-on-extremist violence. This is an extremist coward targeting peaceful people for violence. And it is pathetic to even mention other outside agitators as if that makes terrorism okay.


Bingo.

Why the equalization is just sad and pathetic, it's bringing down the innocent victims to the same level of a terrorist. "Meh, they're all shit". No, only one is a shit, the terrorist.


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The federal government does not appear to categorize them as domestic terrorists.


I didn't ask you how the government feels.


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Bingo.

Why the equalization is just sad and pathetic, it's bringing down the innocent victims to the same level of a terrorist. "Meh, they're all shit". No, only one is a shit, the terrorist.


and the snakes who force that equalization narrative


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I didn't ask you how the government feels.


It is the government that decides, so . . .


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Wrong.

Anti-Fa was present at the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park. This counter-demonstration was held by peaceful protesters at a wholly different location downtown.

The woman who was murdered was not engaged in any violent activities, she was merely crossing the street. Some of the 19 others who were injured were not even present for the counter-demonstration, but were pedestrians who were leaving a nearby park.

So a Nazi terrorist left a White Nationalist rally, looking for a group to target for violence. He did not choose to use any of the firearms found in his vehicle to shoot members of Anti-Fa at the Unite the Right rally. Rather, he cruised around in his car until he found a soft target of peaceful protesters and bystanders.

This is not extremist-on-extremist violence. This is an extremist coward targeting peaceful people for violence. And it is pathetic to even mention other outside agitators as if that makes terrorism okay.

There are reports that the Nazi's were pepper sprayed as they first entered the park


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The federal government does not appear to categorize them as domestic terrorists.

At least 1 state has, and there are currently petitions to have them declared as such on the federal level. Which makes sense since they frequently participate in terrorist tactics.


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It is the government that decides, so . . .


Lol okay man, I'll change the angle. All but one state lists them as terrorists(New Jersey is the state). If tomorrow that changed to 100% of states listing them, would it be a decision you agree with?


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Lol okay man, I'll change the angle. All but one state lists them as terrorists(New Jersey is the state). If tomorrow that changed to 100% of states listing them, would it be a decision you agree with?


we first listed neonazis as terrorists. thats why nazi shitshows never happen here.
first amendment is a personal right, not the right of terrorist groups. dont like it? boo hoo hoo GTFO. -NJ

...but we also had to put antifa on the list to coddle the snowflake white supremacists,
even though you kinda have to have a nazi rally for antifa to be relevant/dangerous in the first place.


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we first listed neonazis as terrorists. thats why nazi shitshows never happen here.
first amendment is a personal right, not the right of terrorist groups. dont like it? boo hoo hoo GTFO. -NJ

...but we also had to put antifa on the list to coddle the snowflake white supremacists,
even though you kinda have to have a nazi rally for antifa to be relevant/dangerous in the first place.

Antifa doesn't just target Nazis, they target republicans in general with violence.


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There are reports that the Nazi's were pepper sprayed as they first entered the park


Are you dense? You are conflating the Unite the Right rally with the counter-demonstration that was held at a wholly separate location. I went to great lengths to explain this precisely to avoid this confusion.

These demonstrators were peaceful. They held their counter-demonstration at a different location downtown, because they did not want any violent confrontations with White Nationalists.

This means that for any White Nationalists to be present, they had to leave the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park, and go downtown to the park where these protesters were holding their counter-demonstration.

Which is precisely what the perpetrator did. He left the Unite the Right rally, got in his car, and drove downtown to where the peaceful demonstrators were, and drove his car into the crowd. There were no pre-incident confrontations with this group.


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we first listed neonazis as terrorists. thats why nazi shitshows never happen here.
first amendment is a personal right, not the right of terrorist groups. dont like it? boo hoo hoo GTFO. -NJ

...but we also had to put antifa on the list to coddle the snowflake white supremacists,
even though you kinda have to have a nazi rally for antifa to be relevant/dangerous in the first place.


Kinda weird that the same people who insist that Antifa is a terrorist group, even though on NJ recognizes them as such, are the same people who refuse to call White Supremacist terrorist, even though they're on the Federal watch list. It's almost like they have an agenda. Weird.


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we first listed neonazis as terrorists. thats why nazi shitshows never happen here.
first amendment is a personal right, not the right of terrorist groups. dont like it? boo hoo hoo GTFO. -NJ

...but we also had to put antifa on the list to coddle the snowflake white supremacists,
even though you kinda have to have a nazi rally for antifa to be relevant/dangerous in the first place.


No you don't need a nazi rally. The shitheads got violent over Berkeley and then the Berkeley protests.

But I do love how you seem to be whining NJ dared to list these pieces of shit as a terrorist group lol. Triggered.


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Are you dense? You are conflating the Unite the Right rally with the counter-demonstration that was held at a wholly separate location. I went to great lengths to explain this precisely to avoid this confusion.

These demonstrators were peaceful. They held their counter-demonstration at a different location downtown, because they did not want any violent confrontations with White Nationalists.

This means that for any White Nationalists to be present, they had to leave the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park, and go downtown to the park where these protesters were holding their counter-demonstration.

Which is precisely what the perpetrator did. He left the Unite the Right rally, got in his car, and drove downtown to where the peaceful demonstrators were, and drove his car into the crowd. There were no pre-incident confrontations with this group.

They had to leave the park because of the fighting, and they were getting attacked as they exited. Don't get me wrong the Nazi is a piece of shit, but that doesn't mean that it's wrong to point out that there was another group of assholes who contributed to the whole thing.


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not here. put a federal ban on both fascism in all it's rebranded forms, and anti-fascism as well to coddle the white supremacists, just like in nj. sure the antifa banning would be meaningless, but overall the problem is solved so screw it. smile


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They had to leave the park because of the fighting, and they were getting attacked as they exited. Don't get me wrong the Nazi is a piece of shit, but that doesn't mean that it's wrong to point out that there was another group of assholes who contributed to the whole thing.


Bingo.


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Kinda weird that the same people who insist that Antifa is a terrorist group, even though on NJ recognizes them as such, are the same people who refuse to call White Supremacist terrorist, even though they're on the Federal watch list. It's almost like they have an agenda. Weird.

Personally I don't have a problem in calling them terrorists, I'm just saying that they're one of multiple terrorist groups that need to be dealt with.


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not here. put a federal ban on both fascism in all it's rebranded forms, and anti-fascism as well to coddle the white supremacists, just like in nj. sure the antifa banning would be meaningless, but overall the problem is solved so screw it. smile


I like how the narrative is that the proper labeling of Antifa pieces of shit is just to coddle white supremacists lol.


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Are you dense? You are conflating the Unite the Right rally with the counter-demonstration that was held at a wholly separate location. I went to great lengths to explain this precisely to avoid this confusion.

These demonstrators were peaceful. They held their counter-demonstration at a different location downtown, because they did not want any violent confrontations with White Nationalists.

This means that for any White Nationalists to be present, they had to leave the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park, and go downtown to the park where these protesters were holding their counter-demonstration.

Which is precisely what the perpetrator did. He left the Unite the Right rally, got in his car, and drove downtown to where the peaceful demonstrators were, and drove his car into the crowd. There were no pre-incident confrontations with this group.


The whiny crybaby Neo-Nazi Christopher Cantwell did that in the Vice video. He conflated the peaceful protestors who were rammed by a car as being the same as the anti-fascist fighters at the UtR rally. How he personally justified the murder.


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