Omac - no
Ultraman - no
Despero - yes under normal portrayal, no under all out
Wm thor - no
Kurse - no
Eradicator - no
Doomsday - yes under normal portrayal, no under all out
Superboy prime - yes under normal portrayal, maybe under all out
WWH - no
King Hyperion (Original) - no
Etrigan - no
Destroyer (Animated) - yes under normal portrayal, no under all out
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There's no difference in normal superman or an all out superman. It's sad that people think that superman is the only character that starts to lose in the beginning and then win in the end. Superman is a high Herald whether he's sleeping or going all out. Every writer agrees with this. Superman can only get stronger with a sun amp. That's why he sundipps. If going all out gave him even a half strength boost, then it would be noted in writing. As in, the madder hulk gets, the stronger hulk gets or the more confident gladiator is the stronger and more powerful he becomes. Supermans strength had Been measured plenty of times by scientists. No where in any superman bios will you see dynamic strength. Hulk, yes... Gladiator, yes. Superman.. no.
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No.
Look, his power is a dynamic as it gets. Its just not as visual as say Hulk. His cap is fluent and there is a definitive difference between a holding back (any) hero and one going for broke
If superman had dynamic strength, it would be as clear as day. That OWAW crap is what started this mess. An all out superman does not get any stronger. He has went all out against BA, CM an plenty others. When a character is said to be too even in strength with CM in narration, by the character himself, by writers and in writing, it proof positive. Dynamic strength is not all of a sudden going from losing to beating someone or something. If that was the case, then Spiderman dropped his mental blocks and went from meta to trans when he beat firelord. But you don't see his fans making such an absurd claim.
his argument would hold more validity if he hadnt made such a practice of wiping away any statement, narration, comment or panel, involving Thor, Asgard, Odin, etc, any time there are descriptions supporting the pinacle levels of power they reach.
Heavily implied since he led the army of frost giants and we know Thor tore through both armies.
Dragon wasn't random btw it was Niddhog.
Had nothing to do with not being able to kill it. He thought it had perished under the rubble he left it in.
Hulk killed it in the present, but we don't actually know if it was more powerful.
Also...
I left out this wm because the canonicity is suspect. There was a foreword by Clark Gregg stating that the core group of Avengers in the book were based off of the guys from the Marvel cinematic universe. Was kinda confusing.
Anyways if u disagree, I'll agree because u are my buddy.
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Have you actually READ a Superman comic in the past 20 yrs?
It has been DEFINITIVELY shown that his powers are connected to his mindset. Superman has nearly DIED because he THOUGHT he was human and had no powers.
If superman had dynamic strength, then why have writers increased and decreased his strength over a period of 50 some years? If a character has dynamic strength, then it would be pointless to even suggest it. Hulk strength comes from his mindset, can his strength be decreased??????? NO, he has dynamic strength. But drop the subject for now. Agree to disagree.
I'm going to sound mean here, and I recognise that, but I feel like what I say, needs to be said...
Ask your writer friends about the basic structure of storytelling, and how the example you just used has absolutely no relevance to whether Superman has dynamic strength or not.
They have been ask several times and ALL said that superman does not have dynamic strength where he can increase his strength by will ot dropping mental blocks. But don't worrying about it. That day will come when I convince one or more of them to let me post their names and statement. Be here with the same attitude when it comes. Have a nice day.
Abhi is right on this but all terms and definition have some fluidity to them.
I believe Warrior Madness was supposed to be a state where he actually does become ten times as strong, but it's meaning has since been diluted to the point where it simply means "lost in the heat of battle" or some shit.
Like in his fight with maestro-huk, where he's spposedly in WM but completely level-headed 2 seconds after being BFR'd.