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DarkSaint85
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What's Savage's baseline? What's a base Savage and a base WWH?
Because by hype, WWH is stronger.

Actual feats, though? Savage is stronger.


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Seriously, don't make me get the belt!
Anybody who places any of the B list Supermen (especially Gladiator) above Classic Thor, simply needs to do some searches and look at some panels that u probably never knew existed.

Warning: u will probably need a bucket for your bitter tears as u see Gladiator get treated like a little "funny-boy" by both Eric Masterson Thor and Classic Thor. As bith face off against Gladiator it is painfully clear that they only begin taking Gladiator seriously about 3/4 of the way through the fight, where both decide to stop playing and Gladiator is about to get the "confidence" kicked out of his anus by a norse god.

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Seriously, don't make me get the belt!
Anybody who places any of the B list Supermen (especially Gladiator) above Classic Thor, simply needs to do some searches and look at some panels that u probably never knew existed.

Warning: u will probably need a bucket for your bitter tears as u see Gladiator get treated like a little "funny-boy" by both Eric Masterson Thor and Classic Thor. As bith face off against Gladiator it is painfully clear that they only begin taking Gladiator seriously about 3/4 of the way through the fight, where both decide to stop playing and Gladiator is about to get the "confidence" kicked out of his anus by a norse god.


Match the STRENGTH displayed by Masterson and Whorinson and lets see what you get.

THE KING OF CANON HAS SPOKEN!!!


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Seriously, don't make me get the belt!
Anybody who places any of the B list Supermen (especially Gladiator) above Classic Thor, simply needs to do some searches and look at some panels that u probably never knew existed.

Warning: u will probably need a bucket for your bitter tears as u see Gladiator get treated like a little "funny-boy" by both Eric Masterson Thor and Classic Thor. As bith face off against Gladiator it is painfully clear that they only begin taking Gladiator seriously about 3/4 of the way through the fight, where both decide to stop playing and Gladiator is about to get the "confidence" kicked out of his anus by a norse god.


Jane Thor matched Odinson in strength during their fight but when she faced Gladiator, she commented on his strength and afterwards got choked to sleep with one arm.


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I could be much weaker than you and choke you to sleep. That's why chokes are such a viable tactic.

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I could be much weaker than you and choke you to sleep. That's why chokes are such a viable tactic.
Gladiator didn't put her in a choke hold, where technique matters. He put her to sleep by squeezing with one outstretched arm, while she was trying to break free. That's superior strength.

You have no idea what you're talking about.


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As an example, please post any MMA fighter in it's entire history, where one fighter casually chokes another one out in such a manner, whilst the target is actively fighting back.


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It's comics. Simply lifting another person with one hand like that isn't easy. What I'm getting at is they are peers, they have been shown to be on multiple occasions, with Thor usually winning actually. To say Glads massively outclasses Thor in strength is wrong based off both feats and they're previous encounters.

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Peers don't choke peers out with one hand whilst the peer is actively fighting back though.

I mean, it's even a trope:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeckLift


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Peers don't choke peers out with one hand whilst the peer is actively fighting back though.

I mean, it's even a trope:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeckLift

I can totally understand that reasoning, but I wouldn't say it's definitive. Being suddenly suffocated/choked when you're not expecting it causes you to panic. That's why you can kill someone by suprising them with a plasic bag over their head. They focus on trying to pull the bag away from their neck rather than tear a hole in the bag where their mouth is. Janes not a seasoned warrior and when Glads locked on she was trying to pull his hand away by the wrist while she was flailing in the air, had no leverage, while the blood to her brain was being cut off. I'm not saying that she or the real Thor are definitely as strong/stronger than Glads, but IMO that scan isn't unarguable proof that he's stronger either.


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Lmao
People trying way to hard to discredit a comic showing

Next people are going to start arguing that x character wasn't portraying the correct breathing technique when trying to punch hence why it was so ineffective


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I can totally understand that reasoning, but I wouldn't say it's definitive. Being suddenly suffocated/choked when you're not expecting it causes you to panic. That's why you can kill someone by suprising them with a plasic bag over their head. They focus on trying to pull the bag away from their neck rather than tear a hole in the bag where their mouth is. Janes not a seasoned warrior and when Glads locked on she was trying to pull his hand away by the wrist while she was flailing in the air, had no leverage, while the blood to her brain was being cut off. I'm not saying that she or the real Thor are definitely as strong/stronger than Glads, but IMO that scan isn't unarguable proof that he's stronger either.


Basically what I had in my head but couldn't figure out how to word it.

I'm comfortable with saying a Super ripoff is stronger than Jane Thor, but to say he is stronger than Thor Odinson ( who this thread is about) by a massive amount is bullshit based off both feats and their past encounters. Y'all are going off one showing as opposed to many. Irrefutable.

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Yeah, it's not like a future gladiator twoshotted Thor.


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Yeah, it's not like a future gladiator twoshotted Thor.


Posts like these exemplify your disingenuity.


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That encounter played up the speed disparity that would mean the end for Thor in any confrontation with Superman.


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Originally posted by krisblaze
Posts like these exemplify your disingenuity.

Wut?

Gladiator koed Thor in two punches in Thor v2 34.


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Re: Who here is stronger than thor

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Normal Thor

Even by a little

Omac no
Ultraman yes
Black Adam even
King Hyperion slight edge
WWH much stronger
Superboy Prime shouldnt be here too strong
Despero stronger
Doomsday stronger
Gladiator stronger
Hyperion even
Etrigan weaker
Destroyer (Animated)
???

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Animated like the destroyer vs gladiator


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I can totally understand that reasoning, but I wouldn't say it's definitive. Being suddenly suffocated/choked when you're not expecting it causes you to panic. That's why you can kill someone by suprising them with a plasic bag over their head. They focus on trying to pull the bag away from their neck rather than tear a hole in the bag where their mouth is. Janes not a seasoned warrior and when Glads locked on she was trying to pull his hand away by the wrist while she was flailing in the air, had no leverage, while the blood to her brain was being cut off. I'm not saying that she or the real Thor are definitely as strong/stronger than Glads, but IMO that scan isn't unarguable proof that he's stronger either.


It's definitely a sign from the writer that he's stronger. This is from an "writer's intentions" argument.
But based off the physics of it, it can only be proved that he is at least a little bit stronger.

So you both have a point. He's stronger, but it's not necessarily by a lot.


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Animated like the destroyer vs gladiator


You mean The Destroyer vs. Gladiator an his son the former who said "he'd never felt such power" or something along those lines.

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