When did I imply this? I never said they were as strong. But looking at the context of the quote, it's clearly talking about potential, how Sidious wanted this guy who WOULD become more powerful than him, but how Obi-Wan stopped that on Mustafar, where Vader wasn't stronger than Sidious, heck- he was no longer even as strong as Sidious. It's not talking about actualized power.
This is becoming repetitive. You try to claim what I say is pathetic and laughable and that I "got schooled" just because I disagree with you, but yet again failed.
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When it says that Sidious wanted a guy who would become more powerful than him, it's talking about Anakin's potential, yeah. But then he goes on to say that Anakin was no longer as strong as Sidious after his injuries, which is implying that Anakin was his equal before. It's not talking about his potential here because otherwise he would have said he was no longer stronger than Sidious.
Yoda and Palpatine (as of ROTS) do not seem capable of ravaging entire worlds with their powers. Palpatine wasn't even as of DE in a short span. Now some would assert that they are ranked above Darth Nihilus in the books but they fail to comprehend the bigger picture - they have relatively superior control and understanding of the ways of Force [conventionally speaking] but they do not match Darth Nihilus in destructive applications of the Force because such power was the byproduct of his hunger condition and not his conventional strengths - JM Kriea clearly remarked that Darth Nihilus is not powerful in conventional ways but his condition sets him apart from others.
Abeloth and Valkorion are two Force-users who matched Darth Nihilus in destructive applications of the Force with sheer raw power.
People treating Valkorion like some conventional guy - is absurd.
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Interesting. A person who is actually willing to hear somebody else out instead of instantly flinging out condescending pseudo-smart mockery for not agreeing with their head canon. Good work, keep it up.
Basically it boils down to statements about Vader's power, not necessarily his feats, so it's understandably be hard for people to seriously consider the idea he's beyond the likes of Valkorion. After all, it is a psychological need for most people to have something shown rather than told to accept it, which is where the saying "Show, don't tell!" in storytelling originates from.
But alas, facts are facts, and we must entertain them as such without our bias or preconceived notions of what a Star Wars power hierarchy should be getting in the way. Conclusions should be based on the evidence; the evidence shouldn't be cherry-picked to suit the conclusion.
I'll make my case soon.
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I could buy Vader > the ancient sith except Valkorion, but some like Caedus are explicitly more powerful than Vader, and for others like Krayt it's pretty obvious to me given his performance against Abeloth. But I look forward to your case.