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Rank the Following Above-Vader Force-Users
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ChocolateMuesli
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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Hey sithmaster, you found that evidence for Zonakin being >Knightfall Anakin you said you had?

Mind posting it? smile

One beat Dooku, the other lost to Obi-Wan?

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If you're much better than someone, then you need to be at least as strong as them. Vader was no longer as strong as Sidious in the Force. He was weaker. What George was trying to say was that after Vader was crippled he lost lots of his Force potential, and that Vader was weaker than Sidious. So, no longer stronger than Sidious, not even as strong as Sidious. It's not rocket science.

Uh.. What? Lol

He was no longer as strong as Sidious, implying he was before. Not that complicated.

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Uh.. What? Lol

He was no longer as strong as Sidious, implying he was before. Not that complicated.


In the Force, as in Force potential. Not actualized power.


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In the Force, as in Force potential. Not actualized power.

Where does it say that

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Where does it say that

Nowhere. Additionally, Sithmaster implying that Anakin and Sidious having on par potential is laughable.

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Nowhere. Additionally, Sithmaster implying that Anakin and Sidious having on par potential is laughable.


When did I imply this? I never said they were as strong. But looking at the context of the quote, it's clearly talking about potential, how Sidious wanted this guy who WOULD become more powerful than him, but how Obi-Wan stopped that on Mustafar, where Vader wasn't stronger than Sidious, heck- he was no longer even as strong as Sidious. It's not talking about actualized power.
This is becoming repetitive. You try to claim what I say is pathetic and laughable and that I "got schooled" just because I disagree with you, but yet again failed.


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When it says that Sidious wanted a guy who would become more powerful than him, it's talking about Anakin's potential, yeah. But then he goes on to say that Anakin was no longer as strong as Sidious after his injuries, which is implying that Anakin was his equal before. It's not talking about his potential here because otherwise he would have said he was no longer stronger than Sidious.

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That, plus GL said he could've been "twice as good as the Emperor."


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Shitty lists.

Yoda and Palpatine (as of ROTS) do not seem capable of ravaging entire worlds with their powers. Palpatine wasn't even as of DE in a short span. Now some would assert that they are ranked above Darth Nihilus in the books but they fail to comprehend the bigger picture - they have relatively superior control and understanding of the ways of Force [conventionally speaking] but they do not match Darth Nihilus in destructive applications of the Force because such power was the byproduct of his hunger condition and not his conventional strengths - JM Kriea clearly remarked that Darth Nihilus is not powerful in conventional ways but his condition sets him apart from others.

Abeloth and Valkorion are two Force-users who matched Darth Nihilus in destructive applications of the Force with sheer raw power.

People treating Valkorion like some conventional guy - is absurd.


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