This supports the stance, that Revan was the strongest force user to come out of the enclave, including exar Kun. It makes more sense as to why Meetra said Revan was the strongest she had felt, since the Mando wars. Would explain why Kreia directly Comments on Revans pure power, when she knows the likes of Nihilus is walking around. The context, of ajunta pall possibly describing Revan's power as blinding would make perfect sense. Duron qel droma was shitting himself at Malak's power.
Meetra was too young to have ever met Exar Kun, Kreia thought Nihilus to be at best equal to the Ancient Sith that Exar was better than, and Duron was cannon fodder, bro.
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Let me lay it out here one more time: Vitiate, in his fight with Revan, was amped by a dark side nexus. You are correct in that there is no quote confirming that the nexus amped Vitiate to a great degree, but then you go ahead and use that as evidence. What did I tell you in our last debate, again? Ah yes, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. If you want to start winning these debates for a change, you'd better get rid of the habit of ignoring every single thing the opponent says and countering only with a logical fallacy and nothing else. I might as well twist your own logic upon you, and claim that because there is nothing saying Vitiate was amped to a small degree, he must have been amped to a great degree! You wouldn't want to start employing double standards against me too, now would you?
But the point I'm getting at here is that because there is nothing telling us the potency of the amp, whether it was great or small, we cannot assume either. The degree to which Vitiate was amped, just based on the Revan novel, is unknown, and thus, his feats with said amp cannot be used as a demonstration of his natural power level without making baseless guesses or utilizing faulty logic.
This is where the quotes of other characters come in to fill the gaps. Exar Kun has been labelled as "the darkest power in the galaxy" before growing even more powerful, and also "the most powerful and dangerous of all Sith Lords" twice. His apprentice Ulic Qel-Droma in turn has been stated to be "the only other Sith practitioner who could challenge [Exar Kun]" and "a formidable Dark Lord of the Sith, second only to his partner Exar Kun." That is a total of five quotes for these two characters putting them above all other Sith in the galaxy, Vitiate included. Then comes in Darth Malak with "powers far greater than even Exar Kun" and we have a pretty clear, canonical power hierarchy here. And the best part is that there is absolutely nothing (that I have seen) contradicting this, as Vitiate's feat against Revan isn't valid.
Doesn't matter. Right or wrong, it's all Kreia's opinion; if it doesn't apply to the old masters, it doesn't apply to Revan either. Nice cherry picking, though.
Hey Mr. Azronger, I don't want to disrupt the party, but Exar Kun was called the darkest power in the galaxy, and this power includes Vitiate when he was nexus amped. When Darth Vitiate would be amped by the nexus of Dromund Kaas, he would have immense power in the dark side, and the power of Kun is even greater than that.
So, no, the quotes are in a contradictory place.
Not going to entertain the rest of your nonsense because it honestly isn't worth my time, but I'll just reply to the select few quotes that caught my eye:
Not shit, Sherlock. But given even when Revan tapped into the dark side and released a blast of pure Force energy that called on both sides of the Force [thus actually amping him] that he could only push Revan back some meters and not even hurt him to any real degree, the point is moot.
Again, even when Revan was calling on the nexus and opening himself up to both sides of the Force, the dude couldn't even hurt an unprotected and distracted Vitiate.
Evidence for what? You're the one making the claim he was amped to a degree it redoubled his strength, lmao. As the one making the claim, the onus is on you to back it up. I can't prove a negative, you must back it up - which you've failed to do horribly.
No nexus in the history of Star Wars has ever amped a character to the degree you're claiming here, unless they have some sort of otherworldly collection to said location, which was never stated anyway.
You mean the debate, where virtually no one of note, thinks you're actually winning? lmao, don't kid yourself Assronger.
Coming from the person who was universally ranked below me, lel. Dude, you're basically a punchline here, even your sweet Lord Tempest stated you were a photo negative of LeG with your SARS-tier claims.
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