Darth Wyyrlok III (ILS) versus Emperor Arcann (XSUPREMEXSKILLZ)
This isn't a formal WOT debate or some shit, though it could become something like that, who knows. Judges aren't necessary. Fight takes place in the Eternal Throne Room.
__________________ ”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”
As per ILS's request, here's my quick post on the matter:
Much of the hype regarding Arcann's standing in the mythos is his relation to the Hero of Tython. To preface, Arcann's main feat is his absolute dominance over the Hero of Tython in Chapter 8 of KOTFE:
Even with HK-55's help, the Outlander stood absolutely no chance against Arcann whatsoever. Arcann has him backpeddling throughout the fight, knocks him on his ass with a force push, knocks him back again with a force push, and then force pull stabs him ala Dooku vs. Master Tiplee.
It's important to note just how powerful the Hero of Tython is. In Act 3 he literally fights through Kaas City, the Imperial Guard (i.e. the most elite non-force sensitive warriors in the Empire, who can draw on Vitiate's power when in close proximity to him,) various sith, and then the Emperor himself. Keep in mind that the Emperor, even at this point, was so powerful that Lord Scourge would have been incapable of resisting the Emperor's "direct influence" (much less be capable of taking him on in a fight). Keep in mind that Lord Scourge stalemated Act 2 Hero of Tython:
Keep in mind that the Hero of Tython as of the end of Act 1 is noted to be the most powerful jedi in the order various times by various different jedi (which would include the likes of Satele Shan and the Barsen'thor):
etc. The point being, even in the vanilla game, the Hero of Tython is probably the most powerful jedi in the order, and certainly by the end of Act 3 he's far and away the strongest (excluding the Barsen'thor).
Keep in mind that the Kaas nexus in and of itself is so powerful that it straight up turned Katarn to the dark side, and severely clogged Luke and Jaina's senses. The Dark Temple, however, is even more powerful. It literally drove thousands of slaves and even sith lords mad:
Case in point, this is an absurdly impressive feat for the Hero of Tython, and he only grows stronger throughout the Dread War and SOR. Now, some have said that the imperfect carbonite freezing may have been hindering the Outlander in his fight with Arcann, but this has literally no basis in evidence whatsoever, and is irrelevant anyways. Why? Because in KOTFE Chapter 12, even after Valkorion gives the Outlander a boon of power, it's heavily implied that the Outlander would not stand a chance against Arcann:
So essentially, in order to defeat Arcann, the Outlander needed:
1. A boon of power from Valkorion.
2. A lightsaber meant to "guide the will of the force" that specifically increased the Outlander's power when fighting Arcann.
3. Embracing a new perspective/philosophy to increase his connection to the force.
And even then, the Outlander gets brought to his knees right quick at the start of the fight with Arcann, requiring Valkorion to defend him from Arcann's blade:
Essentially, Arcann's power was completely beyond the domain even of the absolute most powerful jedi and sith of his era. It required a bevy of amps and boosts on the part of the Outlander to defeat Arcann in a relatively close fight. I'm not seeing how Wyyrlok defeats him.
__________________ ”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”
It's either he debates or kills poor Mexicans working at factory farms, take your pick the man is a vile racist
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Sep 3rd, 2017 06:08 PM
