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Battle of the Five Armies (Hobbit film)
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Game of Thrones (season 7)
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36.36%
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Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
I definitely agree Smaug is more durable than the GoT dragons but I definitely see that spear rocking him. Again this is all opinion based but that toss was pretty special.
Yeah agree. Talking about these dragons though.
Sep 6th, 2017 11:44 PM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yeah agree. Talking about these dragons though.
What do you mean by talking about these dragons though ?
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Sep 6th, 2017 11:46 PM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
What do you mean by talking about these dragons though ?
These dragons. Danys. Cause they are small dragons. Have much to grow. Smaug is old.
Sep 6th, 2017 11:48 PM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
These dragons. Danys. Cause they are small dragons. Have much to grow. Smaug is old.
Aren't they fully grown now ? Either way it doesn't matter as to the purposes of this thread. Smaug's hide seemed much more impressive.
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Sep 6th, 2017 11:51 PM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Aren't they fully grown now ? Either way it doesn't matter as to the purposes of this thread. Smaug's hide seemed much more impressive.
No. They are young dragons. If we put them in Human perspective. They are arround 6 years old. Smaug is old.
Sep 6th, 2017 11:53 PM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Now. They are young dragons. If we put them in Human perspective. They are arround 6 years old.
Well they are fighting at the time of season seven. And we won't probably go that much further in time for season 8 at all since they are coming.
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Sep 6th, 2017 11:54 PM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Well they are fighting at the time of season seven. And we won't probably go that much further in time for season 8 at all since they are coming.
Fine.
So we agree GOT wins? Hahahahaha
Sep 7th, 2017 12:00 AM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Fine.
So we agree GOT wins? Hahahahaha
Nah, The Lotr side wins. I'd love to see Azog cut through these Westeros pansies.
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Sep 7th, 2017 02:49 AM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, The Lotr side wins. I'd love to see Azog cut through these Westeros pansies.
Hehehehe. Dont worry, am sure Sauron and all their commanders will be allowed to take the Nights Watch..Hoping Dany doesnt burn them all. Hahah
Sep 7th, 2017 02:56 PM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Hehehehe. Dont worry, am sure Sauron and all their commanders will be allowed to take the Nights Watch..Hoping Dany doesnt burn them all. Hahah
Sauron would have those dragons murdered. Azog would tear through any of the Westeros trash known as the Mountain or the Hound.
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Sep 7th, 2017 03:41 PM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Sauron would have those dragons murdered. Azog would tear through any of the Westeros trash known as the Mountain or the Hound.
The odds are against that. As i have said before. We got the numbers, the brains, and the dead to our side. LoTR got nothing but hope.
Sep 7th, 2017 04:02 PM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The odds are against that. As i have said before. We got the numbers, the brains, and the dead to our side. LoTR got nothing but hope.
I have already countered your points. We have the coordination, the superior armies, the superior skill, superior strength, etc. Jon snow is a shitty leader who is too honest. Cersei is just very cunning not an effective battle strategist. Once your dragons fall the rest go down a lot easier. Only advantage you have but Lotr has the best dragon in Smaug.
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Sep 7th, 2017 04:09 PM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
I have already countered your points. We have the coordination, the superior armies, the superior skill, superior strength, etc. Jon snow is a shitty leader who is too honest. Cersei is just very cunning not an effective battle strategist. Once your dragons fall the rest go down a lot easier. Only advantage you have but Lotr has the best dragon in Smaug.
No you have not.
We got the coordination! Tyrion is Tywin son after all. Cercei lays the traps. Jeime and Jon leads the Attacks. Dany orders the dragons (Smaug is proud and doesnt think before attacking...easy target).
We got the better races: Horselords, Unsullied.
We got the superior numbers.
We got the army of the dead who can last twice what those orcs would.
We got the WW to raise the dead troops from both sides to help.
We got the weaponry...Wildfire will cause thousands of dead troops..
LoTR loses on every aspect. As i have stated above.
Sep 7th, 2017 04:27 PM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No you have not.
We got the coordination! Tyrion is Tywin son after all. Cercei lays the traps. Jeime and Jon leads the Attacks. Dany orders the dragons (Smaug is proud and doesnt think before attacking...easy target).
We got the better races: Horselords, Unsullied.
We got the superior numbers.
We got the army of the dead who can last twice what those orcs would.
We got the WW to raise the dead troops from both sides to help.
We got the weaponry...Wildfire will cause thousands of dead troops..
LoTR loses on every aspect. As i have stated above.
Denial.
Tyrion already failed with advantages against the Lannisters. Tyrion isn't Tywin. This is a battle in which she can't lay traps. They can lead the attacks but Azog and Bolg would butcher them all in the field of battle.
Yes, he thinks he just brags.
False, orcs, elves, and dwarves on top of the humans are far superior to these.
Kill Night asking and you lose the entire army.
When and how often do they use wildfire in season seven ?
Nah, you just blindly support GoT but it's clear Lotr has more advantages than the GoT.
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Sep 7th, 2017 04:32 PM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Denial.
Tyrion already failed with advantages against the Lannisters. Tyrion isn't Tywin. This is a battle in which she can't lay traps. They can lead the attacks but Azog and Bolg would butcher them all in the field of battle.
Yes, he thinks he just brags.
False, orcs, elves, and dwarves on top of the humans are far superior to these.
Kill Night asking and you lose the entire army.
When and how often do they use wildfire in season seven ?
Nah, you just blindly support GoT but it's clear Lotr has more advantages than the GoT.
Fighting against his own family. This time he is fighting enemies and guys who will underestimate him!
Sauron will suffer Stannis fate at the battle of Blackwater Bay!!!! We got the coordination.
To get to the night king you have to cross 100+ thousand dead bodies....plus the Westerosi army which would protect him at all cost. Ohh three dragons too! The Night king is important and would protect them at all cost.
Lets do something funny. You throw me an scenario, and i throw you one. And we make an imaginary war. Lets see who wins.
Sep 7th, 2017 04:41 PM
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My scenario.
Frontline comprised of 60000 shields of the Lannister and Stark army. How do you respond?
Sep 7th, 2017 04:42 PM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Fighting against his own family. This time he is fighting enemies and guys who will underestimate him!
Sauron will suffer Stannis fate at the battle of Blackwater Bay!!!! We got the coordination.
To get to the night king you have to cross 100+ thousand dead bodies....plus the Westerosi army which would protect him at all cost. Ohh three dragons too! The Night king is important and would protect them at all cost.
Lets do something funny. You throw me an scenario, and i throw you one. And we make an imaginary war. Lets see who wins.
So he went down to a less powerful army and made critical errors than the armies he's against here. They are going to kill them. They are not going to rocket science this thing. Attack on multiple fronts and overwhelm them.
Based on ? Stannis didn't even die there.
Jon Snow was within one hundred feet and there were guys behind the night King and all around him. That's fine but we have Eagles and a dragon of our own. Also have the bat flying things that Legolas flew on. Those trolls would hammer through the dead easily to get to him.
Well we have to discuss the raw numbers and agree to them so we can split our forces in this battle scenario.
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Sep 7th, 2017 07:19 PM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
My scenario.
Frontline comprised of 60000 shields of the Lannister and Stark army. How do you respond?
We need to establish the actual numbers of both or close to start this little experiment of yours.
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Sep 7th, 2017 07:20 PM
quanchi112
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Are you ok with these numbers for the Lotr side ?
10,000 Silvan Elves of Mirkwood
7,000 Dwarves of the Iron Hills
3,000 Lake-town Militia (including 1000-1500 Lake-town Civilians)
10 Great Eagles
2 Wizards
1 Beorning
1 Hobbit
Estimated strength of Azog's army:
50,000 Guldur Orcs
25,000 Gundabad Orcs
40 Orc Berserkers
100 Wargs
900 Gundabad Bats
100 Goblin Mercenaries
25-30 Trolls and Olog-hai
12 Ogres
3 Were-worms
Sauron, Azog, Bolg, Smaug, etc.
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Sep 7th, 2017 07:56 PM
Josh_Alexander
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you ok with these numbers for the Lotr side ?
10,000 Silvan Elves of Mirkwood
7,000 Dwarves of the Iron Hills
3,000 Lake-town Militia (including 1000-1500 Lake-town Civilians)
10 Great Eagles
2 Wizards
1 Beorning
1 Hobbit
Estimated strength of Azog's army:
50,000 Guldur Orcs
25,000 Gundabad Orcs
40 Orc Berserkers
100 Wargs
900 Gundabad Bats
100 Goblin Mercenaries
25-30 Trolls and Olog-hai
12 Ogres
3 Were-worms
Sauron, Azog, Bolg, Smaug, etc.
Okay.
60000 shields: (main battle front)
20k from the Stark
30k for the Lannister
10k for the Golden Company hired by Cercei
20000 archers: Combined forces of House Lannister, Stark, Targaryen. (Left at back of main Front)
220 Catapults
400 Scorpions
60000 Wildfire Pots.
5000 Horselords.
3000 men for Westeros Cavalry (Starks, Lannisters, etc)
25000 Soldiers left on reseve (Comprised of the Unsullied, And other minor houses of Westeros)
100000 dead (minor possible number of dead)
40 dead Mammoths
5 packs of wolves (100 wolves)
150 Giants (dead Giants)
25 White Walkers.
3 dragons.
Main Characters: Dany, Tyrion, Cercei, Jamie, Jon, Bran, Night King, and Arya.
* ALL NUMBERS WERE TAKEN TO PUT IT THE FAIREST FOR LoTR. ARMIES OF THE ESSOS EMPIRES WERENT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. NUMBERS WERE BASED ON SEASON 7 ONLY!!
Lets war!
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Sep 7th, 2017 09:02 PM
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