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Blaming the alignment of the Chosen One on a black man, fellas? Keepin it real classy I see...

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Both failed to kill Sidious, so... yeah. Windu is as much a failure as Yoda.
Windu defeated him then Anakin turned. Yoda just lost. Embarrassingly so. Yoda also failed to put Dooku down. Yoda is pure shit.


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Windu defeated him then Anakin turned. Yoda just lost. Embarrassingly so. Yoda also failed to put Dooku down. Yoda is pure shit.


A massively amped Windu defeated Sidious because Sidious allowed that. I see you have a hard time accepting it. An unamped Yoda narrowly lost after a grueling fight.
Yoda mopped the floor with Dooku in twenty-nine seconds when Yoda was holding back and Dooku rage amped.
Yoda>>>>Windu by canon, Windu>Yoda by fan-fic.


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A massively amped Windu defeated Sidious because Sidious allowed that. I see you have a hard time accepting it. An unamped Yoda narrowly lost after a grueling fight.
Yoda mopped the floor with Dooku in twenty-nine seconds when Yoda was holding back and Dooku rage amped.
Yoda>>>>Windu by canon, Windu>Yoda by fan-fic.

Lucas said Mace won fair and square in the RotS commentary. Where does it say Dooku was rage amped in AotC? On Vjun an amped Dooku wounded Yoda.


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Lucas said Mace won fair and square in the RotS commentary.



He didn't say "fair and square". He didn't even say "won". He said "overpowered".

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A massively amped Windu defeated Sidious because Sidious allowed that. I see you have a hard time accepting it. An unamped Yoda narrowly lost after a grueling fight.
Yoda mopped the floor with Dooku in twenty-nine seconds when Yoda was holding back and Dooku rage amped.
Yoda>>>>Windu by canon, Windu>Yoda by fan-fic.
There is no proof Sheev allowed anything. Sheev was overpowered and then disarmed. He lost. Windu fought with his own abilities so quit making up excuses just because Sheev lost.

Yoda failed. He admitted it. Dooku escaped. Nah, Windu beat someone superior to Dooku when Yoda failed to even do so. Pitiful is Yoda.


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He didn't say "fair and square". He didn't even say "won". He said "overpowered".
It makes no sense for Palpatine to have let Mace win because his intentions were to arrest, not kill, him. It would've been quite the risk for him to just assume the outcome would turn out how it did.


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Not at all. He pretty much ends up forcing Mace to attempt to kill him. Plus he can, you know, see the future...


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Not at all. He pretty much ends up forcing Mace to attempt to kill him. Plus he can, you know, see the future...
Horrendous logic and laughable when we see how Vader turns on him in Rotj. He didn't see a father turning on him while he tortured his son and was completely taken off guard you dolt. He provided the opening for the rebels to come out on top in Rotj with his retardation and arrogance.


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Horrendous logic and laughable when we see how Vader turns on him in Rotj. He didn't see a father turning on him while he tortured his son and was completely taken off guard you dolt. He provided the opening for the rebels to come out on top in Rotj with his retardation and arrogance.


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It makes no sense for Palpatine to have let Mace win because his intentions were to arrest, not kill, him. It would've been quite the risk for him to just assume the outcome would turn out how it did.



I wasn't arguing any of that. I was correcting what you claimed Lucas stated.

Overpowering someone isn't necessarily a done deal win. And is not necessarily fair and square.

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Lucas said Mace won fair and square in the RotS commentary. Where does it say Dooku was rage amped in AotC? On Vjun an amped Dooku wounded Yoda.


Lucas NEVER said that. Silver's blog cleared it up. He was talking about what happened in the scene visually. He wasn't including context.

The quote is in the Dooku vs Windu CaV on CV, but if you want it just tell me and I'll post it tomorrow when I get back on the battle forum.

On Vjun, an amped Dooku wounded a distracted Yoda. In the rest of the fight, a holding back and injured Yoda had a slight edge against Dooku, and when Yoda gave it a bit more effort, Dooku was instantly drenched in sweat and was desperately backing. He fled. The book goes on to state that Yoda would have annihilated Dooku had he gone after him.


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No, you just said he can see the future but ignore when he provided the means for his own death. He came out on top because of Anakin and died because of Anakin's mood swings. You live on a gamble you die by a gamble. He was also caught off guard by Yoda. He wasn't even sure he survived until he saw him yet you claim he sees the future. Awful logic that can be ripped apart.


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Luckily, I didn't ignore anything and you are still arguing against a point I never made.

Can Sidious see the future? Yes. Can he see everything? No. See simple.


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Luckily, I didn't ignore anything and you are still arguing against a point I never made.

Can Sidious see the future? Yes. Can he see everything? No. See simple.
He didn't see what you claimed either. You can't prove it. He manipulated a broken and fearful man in that situation because he needed to and survived. When Anakin was in another situation he turned against Palpatine. He survived one and was killed in another yet you have the audacity to argue against Windu when Palpatine later died by Vader.

Quit making claims you can't prove and then ignoring when the outcome didn't benefit from Palpatine.


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Yoda is like a wise college professor; experienced in just their area of expertise but retarded in everything else.


This actually gave me a good laugh.


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