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^ I'm sure Limbaugh thoroughly denies that the increasing strength of hurricanes has anything to do with climate change, though. He's one of those morons spreading disinformation and doubt because his constituents demand it.

Wait a sec, I'm confused. Why is it that when people on right point to the weather as proof that climate change isn't a big deal people on the left are quick to point out that climate and weather aren't the same thing so it proves nothing... but then when there's some crazy weather stuff going on they point to it as if it's proof that climate change is a serious concern?


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Localized weather and global climate are different animals but connected. In regards to hurricanes, it's possible that a temperature increase can affect hurricanes as hurricanes are formed due to heat/cold exchanges and fluctuations (it's more complex, that's putting it in the simple).


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Florida was supposed to be completely underwater 10 years ago and there was supposed to be no more snow. I still see land in FL and I still see half the country covered in snow 6 months out of the year.

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Not so sure about that


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Localized weather and global climate are different animals but connected. In regards to hurricanes, it's possible that a temperature increase can affect hurricanes as hurricanes are formed due to heat/cold exchanges and fluctuations (it's more complex, that's putting it in the simple).

So since they're connected, it IS valid for people on the right for people on the right to point to weather stability as proof that climate change isn't really an issue? I mean at least as valid as such arguements to the contrary?


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Florida was supposed to be completely underwater 10 years ago and there was supposed to be no more snow. I still see land in FL and I still see half the country covered in snow 6 months out of the year.

I don't think that they ever said that there'd be NO snow, just that it would be really rare and that it would be gone off the tops of many mountains.


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Not so sure about that



Look it up

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absurd pronouncements do not a sound argument make.


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True. Al Gore should take your advice.

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Look it up


It sounds like some nonsense a climate change denier said and then applied as the argument of the other side


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So since they're connected, it IS valid for people on the right for people on the right to point to weather stability as proof that climate change isn't really an issue? I mean at least as valid as such arguements to the contrary?


Disagreed, I also see a massive flaw in making climate change concerns and pollution problems a Right Vs Left thing. The planet does not care about your political leanings.

Look at it this way, you being on the Right or Right-leaning isn't going to stop you from getting sick or dying due to contaminated water and polluted air quality. ie "I'm on the Right!" isn't a shield.


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Disagreed, I also see a massive flaw in making climate change concerns and pollution problems a Right Vs Left thing. The planet does not care about your political leanings.

Look at it this way, you being on the Right or Right-leaning isn't going to stop you from getting sick or dying due to contaminated water and polluted air quality. ie "I'm on the Right!" isn't a shield.

You disagree? So it's only valid evidence for 1 side of the argument and should be disregarded if it supports the other side? That line of thinking sounds more than a little biased tbh.

I'm not saying that it SHOULD be a left vs right thing, just acknowledging that such is the case among the most vocal of each side.


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It sounds like some nonsense a climate change denier said and then applied as the argument of the other side


Dude the climate changes. It's been happening for millions of years

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Dude the climate changes. It's been happening for millions of years


Dude, no shit, but it's never happened this rapidly. The data doesn't lie.


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the surface of the earth was once molten, so comparatively we're doing quite well.


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You disagree? So it's only valid evidence for 1 side of the argument and should be disregarded if it supports the other side? That line of thinking sounds more than a little biased tbh.

I'm not saying that it SHOULD be a left vs right thing, just acknowledging that such is the case among the most vocal of each side.


No, I was looking past what you said and disagreeing with your assessment that "all is fine, nothing to see here" type of thinking when it comes to the environment, as we've done this dance before. Sorry, should have been more clear.

Making environmental concerns a Left Vs Right thing is wrong from both sides.


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when superstorm sandy hit, my climate change denying friends changed their tune. it's sad that nature had to bring a top-tier shitshow to their front door in order for them to pay attention, but they did finally. no more FB snark about global warming when there's a snow flurry in april.


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It's going to have to get far, far, far worse before anything really drastic is done. Do wonder what all the climate "it's a liberal lie" talking heads will say then, though they'll likelt be dead or too old to be remembered.

One thing that will remain in history though, is our 45th President saying "climate change is a Chinese hoax".


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One thing that will remain in history though, is our 45th President saying "climate change is a Chinese hoax".


He is such a f#cking ignoramus. I know it gets said too much, but he has seriously got to be the worst president in our history. I don't think there's ever been anyone so allergic to intellectual knowledge and someone who doesn't even want to try to sound intelligent. He's anti-intellectual. And it's no wonder he appealed to the lowest common denominator.


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