Ok, I've recreated this thread with the fine folks over in Spacebattles, where vs are more structured. Look for it here And at Sufficient Velocity Here
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Last edited by Darkstorm Zero on Sep 11th, 2017 at 03:48 PM
Am not dictating numbers. Am giving the numbers that are ACCEPTED by the community! You yourself said it. My numbers are ACCEPTED. Other numbers further than that beliefs and speculations.
The Moderator of this forum STATED CLEARLY that the use of WEBSITES can be used to strenghten and back up your ideas. So far no evidence in the books nor the websites back up any of my opponents numbers.
It's not me the one with the fallacy here my friend.
Saruman desired the Ring for himself. Sauron used this to corrupt him utterly. Saruman thought he was using Sauron, but was used utterly. Thats the very definition of mindraping him, just the same as Saruman did to Theoden.
Thats not time travel. That's the equivelant of a message in a bottle being the same thing as sailing.
That is not a mental attack. I mean it is a psycho attack. Isn't like Sauron forced Saruman's mind. Sauron mind trapped him. He seduced him. And tricked him.
Couldn't care less what other forums think. Either front your own argument or get out
Except you didn't
That's because your an idiot who's main tactic is repeating the same nonsense over and over again, and ignoring anything that beats your side hands down
Appeal to popularity
Because we all know the internet is never wrong amirite ugais?
And I don't care
Yeah, because I forgot that was your call to make. So sorry
Don't need to have a written down number to tell Sauron's entire military alone outclasses that number. Mind you, I fail to see why that's relevant when there are people who are so damn powerful to the point where GoT's armies are completely irrelevant, something you've decided to completely ignore
There's plenty of evidence, but you're just retarded (or deliberately ignoring evidence) so, yeah
Speak for yourself. Now, from what I can see of you, you seem like a GoT fanboy. Just a fair warning, we don't take too kindly to your type around here. So, unless you want to be seen as yet another laughing stock, I suggest you take Jaime Lannister's penis out of your throat and start debating properly
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This is gonna raise debate. The Army of the Dead of LoTR were seen killing livings. That doesn't imply that the same effect would apply for the dead.
It has been speculated that the Army of the Dead attack the soul or mental attack. There is no evidence that they can literaly harm the flesh.
So that would be a BUT. Because then the Army of the Dead of GOT won't get affected by this since they are already dead and have no sould. The White Walkers themselves wouldn't be harmed neither. Again there is no proof that Ghosts can harm Walkers.
Also, if the Army of the Dead take part of the war then they would be limmited to killing only a certain amount of troops.
As seen in the movie LoTR. They only helped Aragon with some of the troops. Isn't like they went to morgoth themselves and killed all the Enemy. I wouldn't accept that.
Also the Dark Riders are also Ghosts and they seem to get affected by fire.
Okay show me evidence that Sauron's troops can surpass 200k.
Do me that favor. Cause the only one giving evidence here is me. You all have based your numbers on speculation and not accepted numbers.
As DARK said, 200K is the accepted number by the community. No internet page, no wiki, no forum will exceed those numbers BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO PROVE THAT THEY CAN PASS THAT!
Saruman's army in LoTR was of 10K!!!!!!!! Sauron ordered him to make a massive army!!!! 10K!!!
PFFF please. Don't try and fool me. LoTR won't even reach 500K in troops.
Why? They are spectral blades not hindered by physical defense. And the Dead of Dunharrow are able to move a whole hell of a lot better than the Wights.
As for the white walkers, again, these things are not hindered by anything physical save for Anduril. There's no reason to assume the Walkers defenses hinder the spectral blades in the least. And unlike the Walkers cold defences, these things have demonstrated affecting things even as large and impregnable as the Mumak.
Why? The dead of Dunharrow fight for Aragorn because he is the only one who can release them to the Halls of Mandos. This situation is not the same thing as charging into Mordor and fighting Sauron. (And since you brought it up) Attacking Morgoth, an archangel who has undead horrors that make the Dead of Dunharrow look shallow in comparison would be suicidal.
And again, you are trying to dictate terms to me. Do not do that, or you can leave the thread.
So fire is an effective weapon is it?
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Don't be silly.
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Last edited by Darkstorm Zero on Sep 12th, 2017 at 02:55 AM
I urge you, look up my thread on Spacebattles. You don't need an account to read. They are far more learned than I am. Have a look at the numbers they calculated. You may be surprised.
Wow i might. Those guys seem more mature than all tbr babies which posted here.
I havent seen numbers surpassing 500k.
All the contrary. Many guys are supporting my claims. Many are supporting GoT. Unlike here which let their fanatism cloud their judgement. Not refering to you.
Tomorrow i will discuss further your Army of the dead point.
Ohh and. Most guys were wrong at calculating Westeros army in spacebattles. It is more than that. For if in one thing i know a lot is in ASOIF.
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