Should we bow in fear and run away from this phrase?
When we hear the phrase "Scientists said so."
What are the all the things scientists said so, so that means is fact? And who are these scientists? Are they above or beyond reproach, what is their record, what are their names, credentials I should bow in fear to when their anonymous names are brought up in conversations.
Who are these scientists that we should all live in fear when we hear their name?
Im fine with going to the doctor and seeing him face to face. Seeing his or her credentials on the wall. But in a conversation online or in person when I hear "Scientists said so" makes me cringe.
I agree, not all scientists are equal. I'd want to know about their work, etc.
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Lol.
Because its not about science nor their credentials. Its about challenging fundamental beliefs that shake a persons core values.
People appreciate smart phone technology, we like the science of how are cable works (no-one is hassling the IT guy about what school he went to), every piece of equipment from calculators to microwave ovens involve science.
But when a scientist(s) tells you something that goes againt family, God and country beliefs (essentially my family didnt raise me to believe that, my religion doesnt teach that, my politial party is against that) we discredit anything counter-intuitive.
Climate change isn't about God or Religion though. It's bout wether it's an made or part of lifem. The climate has been changing for billioss of years.
So just to be crystal clear here: we are saying it is wrong to ask to see credentials? I just want that made plainly clear if that is the case lol.
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Re: Should we bow in fear and run away from this phrase?
Scientists are beyond reproach if they toe the line.
If they challenge the orthodoxy, they get marginalized.
See: Noam Chomsky. The neo-liberal left (The ones who control the corporations that own network news) distances themselves from him as much as the right does.
Professors also only cite his views with heavy reservations..
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Based on what...? Science perhaps?
You bring up a good point.
I assume youve read articles on parents who refuse to allow children to receive one form of medical treatment or another. Its never about the doctors merits, his medical science, scientific equipment (x-rays, cat scans) etc....its because their God does not allow it. Youre challenging peoples faith...so they rather allow death than live with the thought that they were misguided or simply wrong.
Where he went to school and what he has possibly done in the past, not a whole lot would be needed I don't want the entire life story of this person. You act like to ask is to immediately say the person is lying.
The bigger the scientific claim? The more I want to know about the scientists.
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Sin, the medical community have also perscribed things that were later found to do much more harm then good.
It's a double edged sword, and skepticism is definately warrented based on history.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
I experienced that, being given meds that were not good for you. Also I would bring up how people sometimes get second opinions if given a major diagnosis(like something life threatening)
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You are deflecting a tad. How should i phrase this....ok. So by knowing his school that proves what exactly? And what do you mean by his past? Be specific. If you were my patient and walked into my office and wanted to evaluate my abilities provide me with a step-by-step breakdown of how youd do that?
Nowhere did i state to blindly follow. Doing your own research is fine. The nature of science is trial and error.
HOWEVER, hand-waving away a theory without first-hand knowledge is silly.
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