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Satele Shan and Darth Marr vs Qui-Gon Jinn and Plo Koon (+bonus round)
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Satele Shan and Darth Marr vs Qui-Gon Jinn and Plo Koon (+bonus round)

Primes for all, 20m apart, battle takes place on flat plains.


Bonus Round: Winning duo fight (Malachor-amped) Darth Traya. Fully refreshed. Battle takes place in Rebuilt Jedi Enclave. Who wins?

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I'm feelin Marr's a mvp and Jinn's a weak link, so let's say team 1. Shan would prolly beat koon too tbh.

Edit: Shan is likely the mvp here

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Jinn isn't the weak link LMAO. Plo gets crushed and Qui-Gon has no hope on his own

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Jinn isn't the weak link LMAO. Plo gets crushed and Qui-Gon has no hope on his own

Plo Koon has better hype/scaling and has vastly better feats.

How is Qui-Gon better?

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Plo Koon has better hype/scaling and has vastly better feats.

How is Qui-Gon better?

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-> Plo Koon has better force feats
-> Qui-Gon is one of the most skilled jedi in history
-> Plo Koon scales above one of the most skilled jedi in history
-> Plo Koon's better

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Additionally,
-> Koon was reputed to be higher than anyone except for Mace(and Yoda, who much like pre-AOTC Anakin, people randomly assumed couldn't do sh!t untill he was actually seen fighting)
-> Qui-Gon soon died, Koon had a decade plus to grow

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Marr and Satele. Qui Gon is the weak link.


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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
-> Plo Koon has better force feats
-> Qui-Gon is one of the most skilled jedi in history
-> Plo Koon scales above one of the most skilled jedi in history
-> Plo Koon's better


Koon's force feats are what exactly? Ragdolling TCW Boba Fett? Pushing away a few droids? Accidentally using a piss weak version of force lightning? Or collapsing a small tunnel, which even non-dedicated force users like Maul can do with ease.

Plo's hype revolves mainly around his piloting skills and his military mind which don't apply here

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Koon's force feats are what exactly? Ragdolling TCW Boba Fett? Pushing away a few droids? Accidentally using a piss weak version of force lightning? Or collapsing a small tunnel,

Casually collapsing a tunnel more than a decade pre-prime, pushing a 20 m pod hunter, and doing the heavy lifting holding up half of a star destroyer's bridge are all better than anything we've seen Qui-Gon do.
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which even non-dedicated force users like Maul can do with ease.

Are you trying to argue Maul isn't more powerful than Qui-Gon?
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Plo's hype revolves mainly around his piloting skills and his military mind which don't apply here

Plo Koon is hyped as one of the most powerful jedi ever, has performed significantly better than Fisto, one of the best swordsmen in history, against a superior version of Ventress despite being injured and was held in higher regard than Qui-Gon when pre-prime.

Plo Koon has better hype and scaling than Qui-Gon does.

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Casually collapsing a tunnel more than a decade pre-prime, pushing a 20 m pod hunter, and doing the heavy lifting holding up half of a star destroyer's bridge are all better than anything we've seen Qui-Gon do.

Are you trying to argue Maul isn't more powerful than Qui-Gon?

Plo Koon is hyped as one of the most powerful jedi ever, has performed significantly better than Fisto, one of the best swordsmen in history, against a superior version of Ventress despite being injured and was held in higher regard than Qui-Gon when pre-prime.

Plo Koon has better hype and scaling than Qui-Gon does.


Mmm some cute accolades you've got there. Shame none of them matter when you're getting man handled by Savage (who's low-mid council master level at best) despite having the help of many Clones. A post-prime Qui-Gon's performance in TPM against a vastly younger and more physically able opponent, is a lot more impressive than Koon getting his ass handed to him by somebody who is definitely inferior to Maul, even at that time.

Ventress had plenty of time to study the way Kit fought and obviously had a massive form advantage. In his fight with Asajj, Plo had the form advantage and what he did wasn't all too impressive. He fended off her saber attacks and TK'd her away, something even early TCW padawan Ahsoka could do.

There are many examples of characters still being able to hold their own against superior duelists whilst injured and Ventress herself is a great example.
'Even an injured Asajj Ventress was still a match for both Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker.' The Official Star Wars Fact File(2014 edition) #67

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Mmm some cute accolades you've got there. Shame none of them matter when you're getting man handled by Savage (who's low-mid council master level at best) despite having the help of many Clones. A post-prime Qui-Gon's performance in TPM against a vastly younger and more physically able opponent, is a lot more impressive than Koon getting his ass handed to him by somebody who is definitely inferior to Maul, even at that time.

The clones were taken out immediately after the fighting began. Oppress's TPM Kenobi style victory is nice, but means little when we have Koon only needing a few moves to directly break his guard and injure him. Not that Oppress is tied to Qui-Gon or even TPM Maul in any way.

Reverse scaling is not a thing,
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Ventress had plenty of time to study the way Kit fought and obviously had a massive form advantage. In his fight with Asajj, Plo had the form advantage and what he did wasn't all too impressive. He fended off her saber attacks and TK'd her away, something even early TCW padawan Ahsoka could do.

I'm going to need a source for the form advantage being "massive". I'm fully ware of the circumstances, but given Koon did better against a superior version of Ventress, while injured, I'm not feeling inclined to think said circumstances make up for the gap between how they fared vs Ventess. And aside from parrying blows, he also disarmed her of one of her blades. Fisto on the other hand ended up completely defenseless. sad
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There are many examples of characters still being able to hold their own against superior duelists whilst injured and Ventress herself is a great example.

A pity Ventress as of this point has done nothing to indicate she's Koon's superior, she's beat fisto though smile

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Either of Team 1 defeats either of team 2. Traya dies in the bonus.


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Koon needs a better partner. Qui Gon will be defeated too soon for him to beat anyone. Team 1.

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How is Satele better than Plo Koon?

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Marr has done nothing that puts him above either Jedi

Satele is more powerful than either Though, if she abuses her power its game over for team 2


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