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Obi-Wan Kenobi - the fastest Force user in history
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DarthAnt66
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Doesn't seem like something Kenobi would think.


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I believe it was Sasukedc who put it that everything is Oneness, just to varying degrees.

Yes well the oneness here is to the degree that he is literally blazing with energy abd that his atoms are coming apart.

This is oneness, and it's not something Kenobi's replicating in a typical fight.

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DarthAnt66
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He's blazing with energy / his atoms are coming apart due to his speed, not that his speed is the result of such.

But yeah, as stated in my original post, it's not necessarily combat-relevant.


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Well I guess Quanchi was always right about Dooku being slower than Kenobi...


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The entire paragraph is hyperbole, lmao.

As far as I know, 372 MPH isn't anywhere near fast enough to split someone's ****ing atoms apart, tbh.


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He's blazing with energy / his atoms are coming apart due to his speed, not that his speed is the result of such.



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[...]every being he spared spontaneous combustion from contact with his supernatural momentum, the Jedi Master felt his muscles, his atoms, his very essence, rebelling into pandemonium.

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600 km/h

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Hilariously false hyperbole. And not even close to being the best speed feat in Star Wars.


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He's blazing with energy / his atoms are coming apart due to his speed, not that his speed is the result of such.


This doesn't happen at 600 kph.


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Fast af.


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DarthAnt66
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My take is that Obi-Wan is pouring more and more power into himself to the point where he can reach X speed.

The amount of energy needed to reach X speed is causing severe effects to Obi-Wan's body since it can't handle that level of energy.

Sort of like Dorsk 81, but not to the same extent. Still all via Obi-Wan's own power, though.

I very much doubt it is actually 600 KPH, but I'm too tired with Legends to debate their inconsistent speed levels.


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In Legends people move so fast even other force sensitives can barely see. Some seemed to appear in multiple places at once or even seemed to teleport. Something is pretty off in the narration.

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Azronger
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Apparently people missed this:

And on a sand-lacerated mesa, a podracer utterly butchers distances at six hundred kilometers per hour.

Obi-Wan-

Ran-

Faster.

The Jedi Master ran over one hundred and sixty-five meters per second.

More than six hundred kilometers per hour.


He is not running at 600 km/h, he is running faster than that and the passage places no limitation on his speed. So 600 km/h is not his limit here.

And I don't see how this is hyperbole at all tbh. The text describes the speeds of various objects in great detail, and then simply states Obi-Wan is even faster. How is that hyperbole? It merely states Obi-Wan is faster than something, and that happens to include any speed feat ever performed by any Sith or Jedi as mentioned in the text. Quite straightforward to me.


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DarthAnt66
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To be fair, it's possibly not hyperbole given, like I said earlier, the films portraying the following: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUbXyd-fK8Q&t=2m46s

Perhaps someone can do that math, but that's a really long distance in a the span of, like, two seconds. This quote may not be as absurd as we think.


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Azronger
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Yeah, and keep in mind that if Obi-Wan is really losing the cohesion of his atoms here, I think this just serves as a nice little insight into how much Force users can actually augment their speeds, but perhaps choose not to because the effort goes beyond their capacity to deflect with a Force Shield and as a result it may cause them harm, and in extreme cases, they find their atoms losing cohesion like Obi-Wan is here.


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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
To be fair, it's possibly not hyperbole given, like I said earlier, the films portraying the following: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUbXyd-fK8Q&t=2m46s

Perhaps someone can do that math, but that's a really long distance in a the span of, like, two seconds. This quote may not be as absurd as we think.


A rough estimate seems to indicate they are around 70-80 km/h in these three seconds. So, far inferior than 600 km/h.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
My take is that Obi-Wan is pouring more and more power into himself to the point where he can reach X speed.

The amount of energy needed to reach X speed is causing severe effects to Obi-Wan's body since it can't handle that level of energy.

Sort of like Dorsk 81, but not to the same extent. Still all via Obi-Wan's own power, though.

I very much doubt it is actually 600 KPH, but I'm too tired with Legends to debate their inconsistent speed levels.

Examining the quote and the surrounding context, it'snot actually oneness. Oneness is derived from a state of focus/peace. Here, Kenobi was letting his fear get tohim and was even grappling with the darkside:
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From the moment he left his apprentice to immolate in Mustafar's lavas, from the instant he became convinced of his failure as a friend, a teacher-a father-and committed himself to protecting Anakin's son no matter the cost, the dark side had begun sprouting like a weed in his deadening heart.
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Still, not applicable in combat

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Originally posted by twotter
This doesn't happen at 600 kph.


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Azronger
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The speed feat in TPM has been calced before: http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=9851


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Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
He already is faster than most Masters in Jedi Apprentice lulz.

This only confirms obi's Bad assery

Do you have any evidence for this?

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