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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Zack M
He wasn't referring to OWAW Supes. Supes doesn't need doomsday here, sport.
Pak knows more about superman than you do. He's seen that OWAW story.OWAW superman is a KMC version of superman, not to Pak though.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Zack M
He wasn't referring to OWAW Supes. Supes doesn't need doomsday here, sport.
Lol...he said Superman...he doesn't need to say Superman from OWAW or Superman from Crisis. He said Hulk would kill Superman, even while amped and he said this before and during the time he was writing Superman, sport.
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Pak wouldn't know how to pour piss out of a boot, if the instructions were written on the heel.
His stories sold and he wrote one of the best Hulks out there and one of the strongest versions of New 52 Superman.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There is an argument to be made. Reed, Doom and even Ultron may have trouble, but Sentry seems clear.
Yeah I guess there is. Wouldnt you think 3 of the greatest minds in Marvel would think of solar energy along the way though?
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I would have to dig up the scans of the other two.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Zack M
He wasn't referring to OWAW Supes. Supes doesn't need doomsday here, sport.
Pak wrote both characters. I trust Pak on this question.
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It was incomplete before Sentry pinched the daylights out of her.....
Like I said,it's not clear cut. There's an arguto be made, based both on comics and handbooks.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Lol...he said Superman...he doesn't need to say Superman from OWAW or Superman from Crisis. He said Hulk would kill Superman, even while amped and he said this before and during the time he was writing Superman, sport.
Yeah, hulk would need to be amped. Thing is, superman doesn't. Team 1.
Sep 19th, 2017 08:30 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Zack M
Yeah, hulk would need to be amped. Thing is, superman doesn't. Team 1.
He said regular Hulk would beat Superman as well. Hulk is a walking amp...remember, his strength grows when pissed. He also said Superman would lose even while merged with Doomsday.
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Sep 19th, 2017 08:33 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Zack M
Yeah, hulk would need to be amped. Thing is, superman doesn't. Team 1.
Lol Golgo, why are you even entertaining these fools?
Moore, who CREATED Constantine, had this to say about meeting him IRL:
quote: One day, I was in Westminster in London—this was after we had introduced the character—and I was sitting in a sandwich bar. All of a sudden, up the stairs came John Constantine. He was wearing the trenchcoat, a short cut—he looked—no, he didn't even look exactly like Sting. He looked exactly like John Constantine. He looked at me, stared me straight in the eyes, smiled, nodded almost conspiratorially, and then just walked off around the corner to the other part of the snack bar.
I sat there and thought, should I go around that corner and see if he is really there, or should I just eat my sandwich and leave? I opted for the latter; I thought it was the safest. I'm not making any claims to anything. I'm just saying that it happened. Strange little story.
And:
quote: Years later, in another place, he steps out of the dark and speaks to me. He whispers: " I'll tell you the ultimate secret of magic. Any **** could do it.
So yeah, he knows Constantine better than anyone else - and he says he exists. Writer interview, confirmed
Naaah, can't see it. Moore is a wacko, right?
Jamie Delano, who wrote some of the best Constantine arcs, said:
quote: When I was writing him I walked past him outside the British Museum in Bloomsbury. I didn't realise I'd walked past him until I'd gone fifty yards down the road, I looked round, and he was just vanishing round the corner. So yeah, it was all very real and immediate, and the stuff I was trying to make stories out of was real and immediate.
Then there's Brian Azarello, and Peter Milligan, who have both said that John Constantine exists.
So yeah, IF people are actually taking writer interviews seriously on the forums now, then John Constantine exists in the real world
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol Golgo, why are you even entertaining these fools?
Moore, who CREATED Constantine, had this to say about meeting him IRL:
And:
So yeah, he knows Constantine better than anyone else - and he says he exists. Writer interview, confirmed
Naaah, can't see it. Moore is a wacko, right?
Jamie Delano, who wrote some of the best Constantine arcs, said:
Then there's Brian Azarello, and Peter Milligan, who have both said that John Constantine exists.
So yeah, IF people are actually taking writer interviews seriously on the forums now, then John Constantine exists in the real world
Nobody pays attention to real life John Con anymore.
Sorry to break your dreams.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by RealityWarper
Nobody pays attention to real life John Con anymore.
Sorry to break your dreams.
Ah well!
Does this mean we don't pay attention to Pak's interviews either?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ah well!
Does this mean we don't pay attention to Pak's interviews either?
Nope.
I have met John Con in a bar yesterday and he told me that we have to stick with what Pak said because he has written both characters so that's more than an opinion.
Pak knows how both characters are powerful.
He even said in an Interview that WWH is more powerful than Odinforce Thor.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by RealityWarper
Nope.
I have met John Con in a bar yesterday and he told that we have to stick with what Pak said because he has written both characters so that's more than an opinion.
Pak knows how both characters are powerful.
He even said in an Interview that WWH is more powerful than Odinforce Thor.
Ah but you don't write Constantine comics.
Actually, if you do, then I know who to blame for the latest storylines lol.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by RealityWarper
Nobody pays attention to real life John Con anymore.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by RealityWarper
I have met John Con in a bar yesterday and he told me that
Wait...are you flip-flopping already? Well, colour me surprised!
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ah but you don't write Constantine comics.
I can't be sure about it.
I get drunk with real life John Con in the first place so maybe I do write them after.
quote: Actually, if you do, then I know who to blame for the latest storylines lol.
Hey ! It's not my fault ! I was probably drunk !
quote: Wait...are you flip-flopping already? Well, colour me surprised!
That sounds naughty when you are saying it like this.
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Sep 19th, 2017 09:16 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Pak said it best. WWH would kill Superman and Doomsday.
Well it's a good thing that Pak doesn't have the authority to fix Superman's power level and abilities. Many writer's have different opinions. So we go on feats and what was shown.
Bottomline, Superman sees WWH as a statue. Superman one shots WWH as he did the probes.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
Well it's a good thing that Pak doesn't have the authority to fix Superman's power level and abilities. Many writer's have different opinions. So we go on feats and what was shown.
YES
quote: Bottomline, Superman sees WWH as a statue. Superman one shots WWH as he did the probes.
HELL NO.
Look at the crossovers and Superman fights against bricks.
They aren't statues to him.
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Crossovers are also inadmissible.
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Crossovers are also inadmissible.
They don't change the character portrayal. That's what I mean.
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Sep 19th, 2017 09:23 PM
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WWH koed the Sentry physically in the WWH arc and was in turn turned to Banner through Sentrys onslaught. Their fight was rather medicore and WWH never took out anyone impressive.
OWAW DD is HP DD who was beyond an amped Superman physically, he couldn't even be hurt that way. This DD took the entire JLA out with people like Flash, J'onn, WW, GL Kyle, Orion with ease. He would stomp WWH Hulk and Sentry.
OWAW Superman moved the goalpost so far up that he was oneshotting Trans to Skyfather level Probes, multiple of them. Though single Probes were taken out by amped low to mid Heralds who died in the process, also single Probes took out the enitre JLA.
Team two has not even a prayer of a chance.
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