Time is irrelevant. It's about the amount of Borg destroyed.
If thousands of them were destroyed with blunt force without adapting then you have a point. But only a handful or less was.
You know that debating here isn't about winning or losing. Everyone here will always maintain what their belief is, even if it is wrong. Just look at Quanchi.
I can see if this was a battlezone with judges. We would have a clear winner in that case.
The debating we do is about swaying someone's opinion. If we can't do that then it doesn't matter.
But if the One is included in this group then the Borg instantly adapts forcefields due to his knowledge.
No it's not. The Borg can adapt after a single drone is destroyed, and they have demonstrated this throughout TNG and even Voyager. You are literally demonstrably wrong on this point.
If you want a place where clear winners are defined, then Spacebattles actually has enforced rules of debating. That being said, debating is about convincing the oposition of your point of view.
Then why bother? I mean I'm here only to provide correct information. Sometimes I'm wrong, and when that occurs, I admit it. BUT that has not happened here, because your methodology goes against every demonstrated aspect of Borg adaption technology and methods.
But he is not. One specifically fought against 24th century Borg. he's not one of them.
Can and Must are two different words. Borg can adapt after one attack and they can adapt after 10 attacks. There are no rules concerning when exactly they must adapt.
No one convinces anyone here really. It is very rare that happens. Typically people just spout their opinion, even if it's wrong. You would be hard pressed to find instances of someone convincing someone else of something.
In most cases, it just become an agree to disagree conclusion.
There were no stips given to which Borg can be used.
Are you REALLY trying to play semantics here? You have no evidence, no reasonable basis, no logical deduction, nothing at all to support your case here. I'm not going into circles with yet another would-be debater about mights, could be's and maybes. Give me solid factual proof or stop.
The convincing happens with evidence. If you want to debate, then you need as much solid evidence as possible. We do not go by what could be, or what you think should be, but only by what is.
Then you are doing it wrong.
In which case we revert to the best DEFAULT variant. Not the one individual borg drone who is not the Borg we know, nor was he ever actually a part of the collective. You arn't going to get anyone to agree or even consider that level of word play to get around your incomplete and unprovable hypothesis.
"I have become Death, the destroyer of worlds..."
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Now you've made an actual claim. Now, where is your evidence of this forcefield used to stop physical objects? And I mean from a Drone, not a corridor repulsor field. We are looking at the drones and their combat ability, remember?
Then we go by the latest incarnation if canon has been changed, no different than using Disney canon over legends when it comes to Star Wars. As much as that galls me, and as much as Voyager pisses on the Borg, that is how it must be done.
It would be unreasonable to assume they have done so. The Borg do not change their way of doing things until they are absolutely forced to do so, such as was the case with Species 8472. They do not alter tactics, and they certainly do not put kinetic shields on their drones because we have never seen them do so even when logic and opportunity have been present. To simply say they do now is disingenuous, and is not even testable. If we were to suddenly slap on a repulsor field generator onto a drone, we have no way of knowing how much punishment it could take, or how much force is required to break it.
In other words, it ceases being about what you can prove, and more about what you suppose would be accurate. And that gets less and less reliable the further down you go.
if you have actual proof then please provide it???? a 2 year okd can provide proof than you do... if you actually know how to use youtube go there and return back with proof otherwise end this debacle and admit you simply are a troll who knows nothing..
We argue in character here, so if you want to claim that they'll do something, you have to provide examples of them actually doing it.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.