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Nekron in the Cancerverse

Would Nekron become impotent in the Cancerverse, or would he be able to reverse it's effects, making it a stable reality? In essence, could he replace Death by filling in for the role on a permanent basis? Or would he be destroyed?


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Nekron would own that universe near instantly. He's not "just" a Death abstract. He's also sentient Darkness and the Void (like Oblivion) too.

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Would Nekron become impotent in the Cancerverse, or would he be able to reverse it's effects, making it a stable reality? In essence, could he replace Death by filling in for the role on a permanent basis? Or would he be destroyed?
As zop mentioned: Nekron doesn't just embody death, but void/oblivion as well... And since the entirety of that universe is already dead, everything in it would instantly become his. thumb up


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But I thought that the Cancerverse was the opposite of Death? Nothing can die there, because it is void of Death.


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Correct. Death initially didn't exist in the Cancerverse, which made its populace effectively immortal... But when Death was reintroduced into that actuality, it instantly overtook everything:
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...Which is exactly what we'd see if Nekron appeared there -- except he'd likely resurrect them as his zombie-slaves. thumb up


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They destroy Nekron.

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They destroy Nekron.

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Nyet!


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Nyet!
Nekron fails, good sir.


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Nekron, casually.


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I swear did we skip some pages in this arc??? There is more to Death simply showing up and wiping out the Cancerverse.


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I swear did we skip some pages in this arc??? There is more to Death simply showing up and wiping out the Cancerverse.
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What pages were skipped?

Honest q, btw.


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Nothing is missing, lol. I posted the entire scene sequentially(yes, it happened THAT quick, Id.)

quanchi doesn't read comics, so randomly 'thumbs-upping' like that is pretty much his only go-to these days.

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What pages were skipped?

Honest q, btw.
Entire point of the arc.


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Nothing is missing, lol. I posted the entire scene sequentially(yes, it happened THAT quick, Id.)

quanchi doesn't read comics, so randomly 'thumbs-upping' like that is pretty much his only go-to these days.

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I not only read them I grasp them unlike yourself. But since you begged for me to debate I'll counter your ridiculous stance. Death was allowed in to close to Mar-vell which was the lynchpin to the entire cancerverse epidemic. It's right in the scan you posted. Once she took him and this was possible due to the close proximity she was to his undying heart. It wasn't her just coming to the universe. laughing out loud

Yw.


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So like I said: once death was reintroduced into that actuality, it overtook everything.

Your 'non-points' used to be better than this... Your hatred toward me has blinded you. #Triggered

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...Anywho, back to ignore you go. thumb up


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So like I said: once death was reintroduced into that actuality, it overtook everything.

Your 'non-points' used to be better than this... Your hatred toward me has blinded you. #Triggered

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...Anywho, back to ignore you go. thumb up
It is right in the scan you posted. It wasn't her being reintroduced it was her taking his undying heart which caused everything to occur. Your scan actually literally says what brings this about. How did you misunderstand your own scan ?


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Nothing is missing, lol. I posted the entire scene sequentially(yes, it happened THAT quick, Id.)

quanchi doesn't read comics, so randomly 'thumbs-upping' like that is pretty much his only go-to these days.

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But you read the comic and so does Zop. It seems that there is so much focus on the consequence (aka the obliteration of the Cancerverse) from Death taking out Mar-Vell, that you overlooked the context of how that scene followed through.

Key Plot Points for the sake of Context:

1) At some point Mar-Vell becomes the Champion of life. The Cancerverse came about due to Mar-Vell killing of the Champion of Death in his reality through a ritual. What the ritual does is killing the Champion also Kills Its God. To which Death is eliminated its universe becomes corrupted because checks and balances has been thrown out the window. BAM with have Corrupted Mar-Vell & Cancerverse.

2) A greater part of the plot is focused on Mar-Vell following its masters wishes to search for the Champion of Death in Verse 616 to bring about the same fate has his own reality.

3) The Heros and Thanos learn of all this. And Thanos schemes a plot to allow himself to get captured so that he can be brought to the ritual. Unknowing to Mar-Vell, Death is with/Attached to Thanos. With Death taking Mar-Vell (its champion of Life) in the ritual, we witness the Obliteration of the Cancerverse along with its Masters.

Key plot for context being, Killing its Champion in the ritual to deliver such obliteration. Nekron can not do the following with doing the former.


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But you read the comic and so does Zop. It seems that there is so much focus on the consequence (aka the obliteration of the Cancerverse) from Death taking out Mar-Vell, that you overlooked the context of how that scene followed through.

Key Plot Points for the sake of Context:

1) At some point Mar-Vell becomes the Champion of life. The Cancerverse came about due to Mar-Vell killing of the Champion of Death in his reality through a ritual. What the ritual does is killing the Champion also Kills Its God. To which Death is eliminated its universe becomes corrupted because checks and balances has been thrown out the window. BAM with have Corrupted Mar-Vell & Cancerverse.

2) A greater part of the plot is focused on Mar-Vell following its masters wishes to search for the Champion of Death in Verse 616 to bring about the same fate has his own reality.

3) The Heros and Thanos learn of all this. And Thanos schemes a plot to allow himself to get captured so that he can be brought to the ritual. Unknowing to Mar-Vell, Death is with/Attached to Thanos. With Death taking Mar-Vell (its champion of Life) in the ritual, we witness the Obliteration of the Cancerverse along with its Masters.

Key plot for context being, Killing its Champion in the ritual to deliver such obliteration. Nekron can not do the following with doing the former.
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What's even more odd is the basic reason for what defeated the cancerverse is in his first scan which I pointed out. It was never Death shows up and then this just occurs.


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Adding on.

If Death was that much more powerful.....

It would not have been necessary for Galactus and Other Space Gods to appear and defend 616-Verse from the Creatures from the Breach. Death would have Soloed.


Thanos did not have to let himself get captured and taken to the ritual. They could just made there way through the Breach, and allow Death to have her way.

Its not the case of raw power or one element force countering the other. They made it vary clear that the Creatures from Cancerverse are overwhelming strong even for the Space Gods and Thanos trump Card was to do the opposite of what Mar-Vell did to his reality.


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