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cool. see, that is SOMETHING at least. nothing remotely CLOSE to enough, but, still, something. maybe he could match surfer or something....
anyway. i've been sticking to that arc and the damage done IN that arc. but if monarch can't show something WELL above planet-destroying firepower, he simply has zero chance in this. even if he does, that would indicate he might be able to harm ONE celestial. he's facing the entire host.
thinking monarch can solo the entire host is, as i said a long time ago--completely and utterly crazy. imo.
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Well he could have done a bigger blast it was more to teach an escapee a lesson. So yeah not far fetched in the least he has planetary blasts especially after absorbing all th captain atoms
Much appreciated. But yeah I'm not sure why people are doubting he doesn't have planetary blasts? He did that casually and to teach a lesson and didn't intend to destroy the planet but pretty clear he could. That was even pre captain atom absorptions
Here is the thing people like Abhi use double standards and pick and choose when feats of collateral damage matter. I doubt anyone doubts monarch doesn't dwarf a herald level character capable of crushing a world with their fists aka Gladiator style but that's not the point. People are exposing his double standards. Monarch's actual collateral damage feats aren't that impressive combat wise but anyone with s brain knows he'd hand someone his ass with planetary destroying power like Gladiator alone.
It's about how these characters match up. Monarch doesn't have the power nor the means to take on this group of characters that would decimate herald level characters as well with the ability to reform from damage to boot.
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omg...
he can destroy a universe in an uncontrolled death blast. again--who cares? he isn't killing himself, so for the 5th time it's irrelevant.
cool scene beating up a bunch of heralds. actually it is a very good feat.
the destroyer had the power of DOZENS of skyfathers.
not to mention ALL of odin's power including the life force of asgard in its entirety. that is astronomically more powerful than a skyfather alone. and its most powerful beam (an unamped beam that was capable of killing odin way back when odin was comparable to galactus) was casually deflected by the weakest single celestial. monarch beat a dozen mid-high heralds. the weakest celestial utterly tanked a blast equivalent to the power of a dozen SKYFATHERS, at least.
that feat dwarfed arishem no selling zeus, odin and vishnu.
the magnitude of difference is staggering. if that is his best, he has utterly no chance to harm even ONE celestial, let alone taking a host with oaa and arishem, both of whom are far more powerful than the celestial that tanked the disintegration beam. low ball all you want. monarch has no showing that matches the power output of the destroyer, not without killing himself.
if you wanna go ahead and just assume he can output more damage than that, be my guest. lol you can't prove it though and have nothing but unsupported opinion. that destroyer would shred that group that monarch fought without effort. they're heralds--it's powered by skyfathers. not sure what you're not getting here, honestly. anyway, you will never convince me he has any chance whatsoever in this scenario, so let's quit this nonsense. probably boring the onlookers by now anyway. /shrug
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i've little doubt he could do a planet-leveling blast. that level of blast would go unnoticed by even the weakest celestial though. he'd need damage that DWARFED planet-killing power to even threaten a SINGLE celestial. without proof of that capability, in this situation he has no chance at all. /shrug
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abhi, you are astounding. STILL not a single scan of monarch doing...anything remotely CLOSE to the damage it would take to hurt the weakest celestial.
so we saw his biggest blasts i take it? beating some heralds, blocking a monitor blast and watching another...teleport away, and taking out a continent?
like i said, the only thing you've done is convince me, and i'm certain many others, that monarch has been HUGELY overrated for a long time on the forum. i mean, geezus... no wonder in all the odin vs monarch threads it's always a close call on the winner with most readers saying odin comes out on top. i mean even YOU have said ga prime was only borderline skyfather. and monarch couldn't even beat HIM. one celestial blast would shred his armor. the ONLY question in my mind is could they port away in time or bfr him somewhere. regardless, he wouldn't last more than a few seconds and would be able to do nothing at all to them.
if your goal was to make monarch look good in this thread, congrats on doing the exact opposite of that.
nice attempt to low ball arishem though by pretending the goalposts have moved. again.
regular old cap atom had the power inside him to both create and destroy a universe. i guess that makes him universal level too, and he can solo the entire host as well, amiright?
I liked the goddamned green lantern, and Bruce's heroic sacrifice doing nothing at all made me sad.
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Still on the same "nothing can hurt the celestials" train, huh?
Only marvel fanboys think Odin is anywhere near Monarch level.
I'm curious, have you actually read the comics or are just going on respect threads for both Monarch and Celestials?
That's only inside quantum field. In actual world he was defeated by Shadowstorm, a Firestorm clone.