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I'll return later, but for now, the Beyonders at their best, is them within the Beyond Realm, which they can attack from. In the Beyond Realm, each Beyonder is atleast bigger than the Infinite Multiverse, and by "bigger" I mean, next to one Beyonder the infinite Multiverse is an insignificant speck. Now, OUTSIDE the Beyond Realm where they have to take on vulnerable forms, one can shitstomp all EternitieS, three can stomp a non-cis LT, so one can beat LT imo. Also Im basing the Beyonders' size on Kubik/Kosmos' size when they entered the Beyond Realm, the actual mature Beyonders are logically far bigger still. This isnt a solitary incident, when one Beyonder first appeared on panel, it was only a forarm and hand but it crossed light years in size. In Hickman's run, Doom/ Owen had to "draw them out" in order for the Owen-bombs to be affective. When Hickman portrayed them from within the Beyond Realm, he had them shine in a tone of God.
That was after he absorbed all the power from the Anti-Matter Universe because the machines he was using to destroy the positive matter universes were destroyed. He was far more powerful at that point.
Last edited by darthgoober on Sep 24th, 2017 at 01:29 AM
Better yet: at the end of the story...when AM was tremendously weakened via the heroes dropping an ASININE dose of dues ex machina/plot-device on him...he still had absolutely NO issues existing as an energy being after his second shell was destroyed: https://i.imgur.com/ZbRhxEp.jpg https://i.imgur.com/e5Xgp4z.jpg
IOW, we know for a fact that AM being reduced to his energy state doesn't have much of an effect on him...not *really*, at least. /shrug
...Not to mention that Monitor was almost completely powerless at the time, as AM had destroyed most of the positive matter universes in the multiverse.
Last edited by Galan007 on Sep 24th, 2017 at 03:08 AM
Depends on which versions we use. The best versions, IMHO, are the pre Hickman Beyonders vs the POST Crisis Monitors (Primal Monitor, etc..). Because let's face it, the Hickman Beyonders are a joke and the pre Crisis' most powerful Monitor, the AM, doesn't fill me with confidence at all.
Look at this : (please log in to view the image)
Even though SG was dying, she actually had him on the ropes and it only fell apart when she turned from fighting AM to scream at Dr. Light. She probably could have ended the Crisis right there if she stayed focused. Irregardless, she forced him to flee from the battle to heal up. Didn't he have a couple of universes under his belt at this time? Yikes.
He didn't say he used all that power, he said he used most of his power.
As far as I know, the AM is only currently being focused on because someone brought up the original Monitor as if he were a powerhouse. So I pointed out that AM was more powerful than him and he(AM) was nearly killed by Supergirl.