Jiren shook a multiversal/megaversal space, he stomps.
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Nope, Jiren beats Black. But in ToP where there are rules... Jiren is obviously curious about maximum power of opponent. Goku somehow managed to be at least rival of Jiren in his LBGoku form... ToP would be ideal for Black to reach and exceed Jiren and he would do it quicker than Goku. But if Jiren goes for a kill, than it would be troublesome for Black.
Still, it has nothing to do with Black. SSB Gogeta stomps Jiren.
Goku's boost wasnt a simple one he absorbed a genkidama powered by lots of strong fighters. He is prolly reaching God of Destruction lvls now but when Jiren got serious he 1 shot him.
Limit Breaker could be above Gogeta Imo since it isnt just a simple boost like ssj2 to ssj.
Jiren beats Gogeta almost as badly as Superman does.
Almost.
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The Spirit Bomb only allowed him to fight for a little longer. It was actually not the reason he was as strong as Jiren. They even commented that the spirt bomb power would not make him Jiren level.
Also he was one shot because he ran completely out of energy. Not that he was inferior.
They even show his eyes go black before the punch lands.
Spirit Bomb only helped Goku to reach deeper level of his potential and he did it with his own will... that was it. It was Goku own power that was at least on some level of Jiren (I think Jiren wasn't using full power at all against LBGoku).
Last edited by Inedian on Oct 9th, 2017 at 05:41 PM
Jiren wasn't using all of his power but I think Goku was. Jiren power is frightening. They are going to have to jump him to win. I hope Gohan get a new transformation and beat Jiren.
Goku would know, wouldn't he? After all those times Supes wtfrapestomped him.
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Goku clearly didn't even consciously know what he was doing, and was outright stated to be out of power if not for the genkei dama boost, yet he went all out.
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