Attack One:"The first overhand chop of Skywalker's blade slid off Dooku's instinctive guard."
Attack Two:"The second bent Dooku's wrist."
Attack Three:"The third flash of blue forced Dooku's scarlet blade so far to the inside that his own lightsaber scorched his shoulder, and Dooku was forced to give ground."
Continued:"Skywalker came on, mechanically inexorable, impossibly powerful, a destroyer droid with a lightsaber: each step a blow and each blow a step. Dooku backed away as fast as he dared; Skywalker stayed right on top of him. Dooku's breath went short and hard. He no longer tried to block Skywalker's strikes but only to guide them slanting away; he could not meet Skywalker strength-to-strength - not only did the boy wield tremendous reserves of Force energy, but his sheer physical power was astonishing."
Continued:"Skywalker was all over him. The shining blue lightsaber whirled and spat and every overhand chop crashed against Dooku's defense with the unstoppable power of a meteor strike; the Sith Lord spent lavishly of his reserve of the Force merely to meet these attacks without being cut in half, and Skywalker- Skywalker was getting stronger. Each parry cost Dooku more power than he'd used to throw Kenobi across the room; each block aged him a decade. He decided he'd best revise his strategy once again. He no longer even tried to strike back. Force exhaustion began to close down his perceptions, drawing his consciousness back down to his physical form, trapping him within his own skull until he could barely even feel the contours of the room around him; he dimly sensed stairs at his back, stairs that led up to the entrance balcony. He retreated up them, using the higher ground for leverage, but Skywalker just kept on coming, tirelessly ferocious. That blue blade was everywhere, flashing and whirling faster and faster until Dooku saw the room through an electric haze and now Kenobi was back in the picture: with a shout of the Force, he shot like a torpedo up the stairs behind Skywalker, and Dooku decided that under these rather extreme circumstances, it was at least arguably permissible for a gentleman to cheat."
Yoda vs Dooku::
"Yoda's green blade caught the blow, holding the red lightsaber at bay, locking the two in a contest of strength, physical and of the Force."
So, you've already agreed Anakin is likely as skilled as Yoda, and as now established, Anakin is likewise stronger and faster.
Anakin is better.
In my debating career I've yet to see a semblance of a proper contradiction to it. Please, enlighten me.
We saw them fight and know he cannot under normal conditions.
Well, for one, let's note Yoda and Sidious are equals - Yoda disarmed Sidious purely due to the environment.
What you're effectively stating is that Yoda > Anakin because Yoda = Sidious, but Gillard has put Anakin on par with (or above) their level.
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Last edited by Jaggarath on Sep 25th, 2017 at 07:21 PM
The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace.
He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.
__________________ "There is only Revan. Only he can shape this galaxy as it is meant to be shaped."
Where is this quote from? This is clearly hyperbole. This warrior has been stopped on the ground and in the sea. He has been overwhelmed by other's strength.
The ROTS novel. The quote isn't saying Anakin has never been overwhelmed. It's stating that Anakin is, currently, unbeatable - as in no one is strong enough to beat him. Since you never read the ROTS novel, you seem to be under the false impression Anakin as of late-TCW is even loosely comparable to ROTS Anakin - he's not. The book states numerous times that Anakin's power and skill increased vastly out in the Outer Rim Sieges. The notion of hyperbole is further unsupported by the fact Nick Gillard literally echoes the same sentiment when he also states Anakin is unstoppable. As it stands, during the time of the quote, which is during the Battle of Coruscant, Anakin is the best.
__________________ "There is only Revan. Only he can shape this galaxy as it is meant to be shaped."
Last edited by Jaggarath on Sep 26th, 2017 at 02:07 AM
Well, sure, but since we're talking specifically about Anakin here, it's obviously not that black and white. Anakin is a tier nine as of ROTS. The issue is he is hindered by Jedi restraints and crippling fear, making him a tier eight since he isn't utilizing his tier nine abilities to the fullest. As Dooku notes, he is intentionally restraining himself, but at the end of the fight, Anakin casts aside his restrictions and becomes a tier nine that is, in many respects, greater than Yoda or Darth Sidious. Of course note the distinction between this and Anakin's full-potential, which is not yet attainable for Anakin.
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Last edited by Jaggarath on Sep 26th, 2017 at 02:23 AM
Yeah I was. I have read it, just obviously too long ago. Well I'm perfectly happy to say I was wrong if this means we can lowball Yoda now. I hope Anakin is the new wank
Well, it's a gradual process. It started with a few members, such as NewGuy, Ellimist, and I. Now it's really gaining steam as members, sometimes in dismay, realize every quote of authority has favored Anakin either on par with or above Yoda.
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Sep 25th, 2017 06:57 PM
