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Good for him.

No rationalizations, just a blunt declaration that if he's protesting in front of the flag, he's PROTESTING THE FLAG. Which is absolutely a respectable position to take, just admit what you're doing..


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Good for him.

No rationalizations, just a blunt declaration that if he's protesting in front of the flag, he's PROTESTING THE FLAG. Which is absolutely a respectable position to take, just admit what you're doing..


Yeah, but it destroys the narrative that this had nothing to do with the flag.

Anyways, this entire debacle is truly bringing out the lunacy in the media. First we have "you're a white supremacist if you don't kneel" from one place, then Vox gives us this hilarity:

The NFL has officially whitewashed Colin Kaepernick’s protest


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Who's saying it has nothing to do with the flag, though? Any of the players?

That excuse is usually said by people who weren't there, as far as I've seen. Pundits, journalists, passive-aggressive posters on internet message boards..


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Who's saying it has nothing to do with the flag, though? Any of the players?

That excuse is usually said by people who weren't there, as far as I've seen. Pundits, journalists, passive-aggressive posters on internet message boards..


All the various people defending it are saying that.

Also now the NBA commissioner has said players have to stand. It will be interesting to see what happens, I think the regular season begins in late October.


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All the various people defending it are saying that.

Also now the NBA commissioner has said players have to stand. It will be interesting to see what happens, I think the regular season begins in late October.


Right, the people defending it.

NOT the players. Just the people who aren't arguing in good faith.


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Right, the people defending it.

NOT the players. Just the people who aren't arguing in good faith.


My favorite is Ray Lewis saying he was just praying.

Though remember I think the cowboys did not kneel during the anthem, but before it.


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Who would have thought

Liberals: Kneeling is showing unity
Common Sense: United We Stand
Liberals: Kneeling is respectfullaughing out loud

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Who would have thought

Liberals: Kneeling is showing unity
Common Sense: United We Stand
Liberals: Kneeling is respectfullaughing out loud


I'm interested in what the ratings will be for this weekend. They had an increase due to the controversy, I wonder what will happen now?

But it's just funny because it has been shown this is about the flag lol, it was for Colin K anyways. The same person they whine wasn't included on the Sports Illustrated cover of protesters.

But what I look forward to is seeing the media still try to push this as not being about the flag. They will look stupid, comments from when this originally began prove that.

Which, I don't even know why we needed a quote from Colin though. They *specifically* choose to kneel during the anthem.

Wasn't there also something in the UK where athletes didn't stand for our anthem, but did for "God Save the Queen" ?


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Meh....while I think the protest is kind of dumb (by which I don't think African Americans are targeted substantially more than any other ethnic group), I still love Football so I'll continue to watch the games.


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NFL 85-90% African American Millionaires.

Players: "We are oppressed"

Media: "if you stand you are a white supremacists!"

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I welcome what they say as long as they are willing to delve into the "why" of it. Why do blacks die more at the hands of cops? Is it just racism? Or does perhaps the fact they commit murder more than any other group in this country(despite being only 13% of the population) perhaps factor into it?

Cuz for me that is like being shocked people who smoke 3 packs a die are more likely to die of cancer than those who do not.


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The why is unimportant to these protesters, it's the fact that African Americans are targeted something like 1% more than the next most targeted groups by Law Enforcement. Lol


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The why is unimportant to these protesters, it's the fact that African Americans are targeted something like 1% more than the next most targeted groups by Law Enforcement. Lol


This to me is as silly as the narrative of "more blacks are arrested for weed crimes". Indeed, both whites and blacks do use drugs like weed at comparable rates. So why are more blacks in prison over it? Is it racism? Or...do high crime neighborhoods get more attention from the cops than other areas, and thus...it is going to result in more arrests?

Shh, don't think about it.


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I welcome what they say as long as they are willing to delve into the "why" of it. Why do blacks die more at the hands of cops? Is it just racism? Or does perhaps the fact they commit murder more than any other group in this country(despite being only 13% of the population) perhaps factor into it?

Cuz for me that is like being shocked people who smoke 3 packs a die are more likely to die of cancer than those who do not.


Is that enough justification to excuse the killing unarmed or fleeing suspects by police? Or the repeated electrocution and/or beatings of suspects who are already in custody? Or instances of harsher sentencing of ethnic minorities by the court system?


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Is that enough justification to excuse the killing unarmed or fleeing suspects by police? Or the repeated electrocution and/or beatings of suspects who are already in custody? Or instances of harsher sentencing of ethnic minorities by the court system?


Nah, it doesn't justify it. It does justify a discussion about the rampant violence though in the community and why cops react the way they do.


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Is that enough justification to excuse the killing unarmed or fleeing suspects by police? Or the repeated electrocution and/or beatings of suspects who are already in custody? Or instances of harsher sentencing of ethnic minorities by the court system?


Who's excusing it? My stance has been that while it is an issue, it isn't even close to the biggest issues facing the African American community.

Well, when high crime neighborhoods happen to be in minority neighborhoods, the chances of getting arrested, and the re-arrested, are pretty high. Repeat offences lead to longer sentences. That tells me you should probably clean up your neighborhoods if you don't want to get arrested. lol


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Who's excusing it? My stance has been that while it is an issue, it isn't even close to the biggest issues facing the African American community.

Well, when high crime neighborhoods happen to be in minority neighborhoods, the chances of getting arrested, and the re-arrested, are pretty high. Repeat offences lead to longer sentences. That tells me you should probably clean up your neighborhoods if you don't want to get arrested. lol


Indeed, they want to ignore the biggest problems in the community. It'd be hilarious if there wasn't so much murder.

But hey, cops and shit. Those bad cops. *70% of Chicago murders unsolved*


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Would you want to arrest those guys? Statistics say that 90 percent of those murders were committed by fellow African Americans. You do not want to look racist by investigating/arresting them. lol That's how stupid this has gotten.


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Would you want to arrest those guys? Statistics say that 90 percent of those murders were committed by fellow African Americans. You do not want to look racist by investigating/arresting them. lol That's how stupid this has gotten.


They shot each other over dice games held outside funerals being held for people who died via gun violence. This has happened in Chicago multiple times too. That is hilariously disturbing.

I'm not kidding, over a dice game. I can relate, I just flat out beat someone to death with a tire iron during a D&D session. I blamed poverty and got off scott free.


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Who's excusing it? My stance has been that while it is an issue, it isn't even close to the biggest issues facing the African American community.

Well, when high crime neighborhoods happen to be in minority neighborhoods, the chances of getting arrested, and the re-arrested, are pretty high. Repeat offences lead to longer sentences. That tells me you should probably clean up your neighborhoods if you don't want to get arrested. lol

The court systems, and by extension law-enforcement agencies, excuse it when police officers are not held legally accountable in cases where brutality and wrongful deaths is apparent. Many are placed on suspension with pay and go on to continue their careers in law enforcement, a few get fired only to get a job with another law-enforcement agency. It is not often that one will be sentenced to prison, however.
Example: Daniel Palateo was not indicted after choking Eric Garner to death.

Also, in regards to harsher sentencing, I am referring to those minority suspects with identical criminal histories as their white counterparts... not repeat offender against first-time offender. It is real, just like the reality of men being served harsher sentences than women for the same crimes.


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