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You actually agree with what this woman is saying?


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You actually agree with what this woman is saying?


All she's doing is attacking a specific identity..

Apply a lot of her logic to, say, Judiasm. I know I've used Israel as an example before, but that's because they have a very strong identity based around their religion, race, country, ect..

"You shouldn't worship the Israeli flag. That's Idoltry."

"Why focus on our Jewish past, that included participation in the slave trade or aiding Nazi's to round up other jews?"

Bullshit.


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I didn't even recognize the line she quoted from the national anthem. Did they change it or something or am I that bad of a patriot?

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I didn't even recognize the line she quoted from the national anthem. Did they change it or something or am I that bad of a patriot?


She changed it, and everything she said was a lie, just like her anthem quote. You notice how Rob, Adam and Bash were all agreeing with what she said, which is kinda scary.


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The original Star Bangled Banner tune is much longer than what we sing now.

Regardless of that part of hers being correct or not(I'm not sure), she effing pulled Trumpers pants down and then laughed at their little unpatriotic dicks


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Assuming the line doesn't appear in the actual star spangled banner that we sing at football games, then her assertion that it's a racist song that none of us should respect seems to fall flat, IMO.

Kind of ironic that one the one hand we are supposed to denounce the Confederate flag as treasonous, and on the other hand reject the flag/anthem/traditions of our country in an effort to be PC because of our country's sketchy past. What are we left with, exactly?

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Nothing. Which is what the left wants. The lady presents so factual evidence and falls flat on her ugly **** face.


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The original Star Bangled Banner tune is much longer than what we sing now.

Regardless of that part of hers being correct or not(I'm not sure), she effing pulled Trumpers pants down and then laughed at their little unpatriotic dicks


Yea that's it. I must be unpatriotic now.


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She changed it, and everything she said was a lie, just like her anthem quote. You notice how Rob, Adam and Bash were all agreeing with what she said, which is kinda scary.

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I didn't even recognize the line she quoted from the national anthem. Did they change it or something or am I that bad of a patriot?


Original manuscript of Francis Scott Key's "Defence of Fort M'Henry", from which the anthem lyrics were taken:


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First printing of "Defence of Fort M'Henry":


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"Defence of Fort M'Henry" lyrics, with the verse in question highlighted:

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/po...-of-fort-mhenry

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O! say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there
O! say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines on the stream
'Tis the star-spangled banner, O! long may it wave
O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havock of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul foot-steps' pollution,
No refuge could save the hireling and slave,
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave;
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave.


O! thus be it ever when freemen shall stand
Between their lov'd home, and the war's desolation,
Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
Praise the power that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto "In God is our trust!"
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave.


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Looks like we got a dumb clinger on here.

Rob my post?


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Looks like we got a dumb clinger on here.

Rob my post?


So stop clinging to Trump's nutsack and **** off.


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Guy shows up out of no where and wants to talk to me acting like I give a fck about himlaughing out loud


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Assuming the line doesn't appear in the actual star spangled banner that we sing at football games, then her assertion that it's a racist song that none of us should respect seems to fall flat, IMO.

Kind of ironic that one the one hand we are supposed to denounce the Confederate flag as treasonous, and on the other hand reject the flag/anthem/traditions of our country in an effort to be PC because of our country's sketchy past. What are we left with, exactly?


It apparently does in the original.

Because America is just the Confederate Flag and the Star Spangled Banner song? Which btw didn't become the national anthem until 1931. LoL. Tell me again how you're not just another ridiculous Trumper.


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It apparently does in the original.

Because America is just the Confederate Flag and the Star Spangled Banner song? Which btw didn't become the national anthem until 1931. LoL. Tell me again how you're not just another ridiculous Trumper.


So songs, flags, anthems and our history doesn't mean anything. What exactly defines us if we scrap all that?

You do realize this is just another tool of stripping America of it's identity.


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So songs, flags, anthems and our history doesn't mean anything. What exactly defines us if we scrap all that?

You do realize this is just another tool of stripping America of it's identity.


FFS, slippery slope much? No one is saying you can't have a confederate flag hanging in your house or a sticker of one on your car. So go for it (though IMO, it's in such poor taste).


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I don't have either. Infact I don't even fly a American Flag out front. But I will stand when asked and the American flag is presented.

At least answer my first question without relying on the second statement to avoid the first.


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I did, you're using a slippery slope. I know it's popular to accuse who you see as your rivals of wanting to 'strip away everything that makes America', but it's just not true. A traitors flag, some statues and a song do not represent everything that is America; I don't care how hard some rube pretends.


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No no. We are tearing down statues, saying who cares about the anthem, who cares about the flag. So what are we without our history?

No one was worshiping these statues. No one even cared till they were getting torn down. It's like burning books.


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Statues of traitors. Who btw are being moved to other locations, not being "torn down", at least the ones done by the city and not vandals.

You're now conflating the Confederate flag banning on government sites with the American flag. No one is trying to get ride of the American flag.

The Anthem, I don't have a problem with it in it's current 'clean' form, but once again, it wasn't much of a thing until 1931, so pretending now that if it was banned means America's history is erased is being a silly 'the sky is falling!' type.


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