You posted a scan of Hulk punching an asteroid and not turning it to dust as proof of his punching power being crap. I'm asking you if this applies to everyone.
Further to my post, this actually proves a point I've been making all this time.
Yes, the angrier Hulk gets, the stronger he gets.
But it takes a specific set of events to make him that mad. He's not going WBH because Deadpool told one too many yo mama jokes.
In this case, the world was at stake. A giant asteroid was headed for Earth, for his friends (Teen Cyclops would've been killed instantly). Yet, he still didn't destroy that asteroid, even with a huge ton of help.
So in a battle thread, to say everytime 'oh, Hulk would just go WBH and win' is false. Because he can't - we had whole storylines detailing exactly what it takes to push him over the edge.
The moon incident doesn’t involve anger. It involves him dropping restraints and not holding back. The point is to see how far he could do so without losing control, yet fails and does lose it. Thus they fire him into space.
Hilarious thing is to just bring up the stakes here with Hulk and ignore what's on the line for Superman and the situation he's in. If you don't treat everyone the same then reasonable discussion can't be achieved.
I'm saying their combat speed sucks because 98 to 99% of the time, they are either getting slapped to sleep by people who combat speed pales in comparison to people like Wolverine whereas you're using the 2 percent advantage. I don't think Cho punch at non asteroid shrunken down levels 98% of the time. All of this is common sense. If Wolverine and Spiderman had 12 battles and Wolverine beat him 11 times out of that 12, I'm not going to go into a versus thread with the two and say Spiderman wins due to him being faster and stronger. That completely ignores what we see on panel and on panel, Superman combat speed (along with Gladiator, Hyperion, etc...) sucks. It's better than most but he isn't this unhittable character that can play a game of chess at nano second speeds while fighting Hulk and Thanos at the same time. That ignore every aspect of what we've seen and you posting images of him making a sandwich at super speed, putting on a tie at super speed or talking to Flash at super speed doesn't over weigh this...
When his friends are on the line...when the entire Western Hemisphere (IIRC) is on the line....Cho still does not unleash his moon punch, despite everything being at stake (and that asteroid being an inanimate object, so not as if he was killing it)....
Why would he do it in a fight? We take characters into play here. You have to be consistent, right?
If we take my logic, it's because this showing of asteroids is PIS (assuming the moon feat is valid). So we should ignore the asteroid as an outlier.
Under YOUR logic, we completely ignore the moon feat, because Cho has never shown the punch in battle. And would allow himself to be beaten to death/KOed before he uses his full strength, as seen in all his fights.
Therefore, using your logic, Cho does not have any high end feats, only his combat feats.
Whereas I am arguing we take both space cheese and combat feats into account.
I don't think you understood my post. My logic didn't have anything to do with combat showings or anything else. It was primarily based off the majority. I specifically said if something happens for the majority, I would put this over the minority. This is why I brought up the Spiderman vs Wolverine example. If Superman gets his head caved in by Kalibak 10/10 in comics, I am not going to go into a thread and say Superman wind 10/10 because he put lettuce on his sandwich at nano second speeds. This goes against everything that has happened on panel. You say that I ignore your questions but you have a habit of ignoring mine. Does Surfer pull a 10/10 against Dakrseid via opening a black hole in his brain? He capable and smart enough to do this. We are debating capabilities, right?
I always said Cho is a pale imitation of Banner. Look at Hulk against that asteroid that was 2x the size of Earth.....one punch smashed it into smithereens.
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Jan 13th, 2018 10:33 AM
he said he was as strong as 10 Warpaths, lol.
