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carver9
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He also controlled a planet destroying bullet like nothing and iirc, he was weakened when he did it.


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Only Magneto and Grey Hulk (after a massive amount of anger amping) could do it.


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Originally posted by Galan007
So is the objective for them to pick up the key without damaging the underlying ground/foundation, like A/S Superman did here?:
https://i.imgur.com/QW6y7He.jpg
*IOW, they cannot just rip up the entire chunk of earth the key sits on..?


If so, this could be FAR more challenging than I first thought, as the key sits relatively flush with the ground... Anyone ever try to scrape a dime(or something really thin) off a perfectly flat surface, like concrete or tile? It can be a pain in the ass just to get your fingers under the damn thing...and a dime doesn't weigh 500,000 tons.



Not just that, but you'd need the fine motion control to trip the lock. Try doing it with your left hand, it ain't easy..

Doubly so if the lock sticks and you have to jiggle it. evil face


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He also controlled a planet destroying bullet like nothing and iirc, he was weakened when he did it.


He struggled with that bullet bit yea it is a good feat

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Has Namor always been in this massive strength band? I mean I knew he was strong, but half a million tons? Really? (I'm not arguing with anyone who says otherwise, I'm just genuinely shocked. I had him down in the Ben Grimm range, or maybe a bit higher. Seems I was waaaaaay off!)

Genuine question - what's the heaviest metallic thing Magneto has ever picked up on-panel
It depends on the writer. On the low end he's written slightly lower than Thing, most of the time he's stronger than thing, during the 60's and on some of his series he was clearly capable of lifting half a million tons. I used his most impressive showing for my answer.

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Not just that, but you'd need the fine motion control to trip the lock. Try doing it with your left hand, it ain't easy..

Doubly so if the lock sticks and you have to jiggle it. evil face


Yeah but Supes strikes me as the kinda guy who'd ensure his holes were lubed, just in case.


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*According to the Google, the Burj Khalifa(tallest building on earth) has an estimated empty/dry weight of ~500,000 tons. So for a point of reference, *that* is what the characters in this thread would have to be able to lift, just to have a shot at lifting the key... But they'd have to be FAR stronger still in order to lift/manipulate it in the precise manner required to unlock the door without causing a f*ck-ton of damage.



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He has lowered Avalon from the orbit into the Earth's atmosphere, and had it float some miles above ground. And that thing is MASSIVE. Not sure if that's the heaviest but it's up there.

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There's also this:
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...But it occurred in a HoM tie-in, so I'm not sure where it stands in terms of canonicity. /shrug

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He struggled with that bullet bit yea it is a good feat

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The most impressive thing about this feat isn't *just* Magneto lifting/moving the bullet. It's that he was able to manipulate it from several lightyears away, and accelerate it to FTL speeds as he brought it back to earth. thumb up


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Think alot of you are overthinking how much half a million is just cause it's Superman's key. Which is probably making it sound more impressive.

500,000 tons isn't really anything massive for the majority of these guys who have city lifting feats which should exceed that weight by alot.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how...le&ie=UTF-8

Hell Carol Danvers pushed a meteor the size of Manhattan away from Earth
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Theres a reason the bigger feats go by names like sextillion or quintillion

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Magneto and Wonder Woman.


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Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Think alot of you are overthinking how much half a million is just cause it's Superman's key. Which is probably making it sound more impressive.

500,000 tons isn't really anything massive for the majority of these guys who have city lifting feats which should exceed that weight by alot.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how...le&ie=UTF-8

Hell Carol Danvers pushed a meteor the size of Manhattan away from Earth
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...1223_210451.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...1223_210508.png


This is true. Look at Magneto's golden gate bridge feat, that alone shows more than enough power to lift up this key. You don't need to get anywhere near city lifting and planet killing bullets for him.


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The key doesn't sink into the ground. So it can't be that heavy. The writer didn't use Google. Everyone on the list can lift it.

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The key doesn't sink into the ground. So it can't be that heavy. The writer didn't use Google. Everyone on the list can lift it.


If only the writer had linked to a quora site where someone asked if a key would sink.

If only the writer made mention of how keys sink.


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The key doesn't sink into the ground. So it can't be that heavy. The writer didn't use Google. Everyone on the list can lift it.
A/S Superman also pressed 200 quintillion tons without the ground beneath him so much as cracking:
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...Comic book physics are a fickle b*tch.


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A/S Superman also pressed 200 quintillion tons without the ground beneath him so much as cracking:
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...Comic book physics are a fickle b*tch.


Kind of like rictor scale measurements.

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That means he didn't lift that much weight. Remember, collateral damage speaks for what is happening in a ft. smile


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That means he didn't lift that much weight. Remember, collateral damage speaks for what is happening in a ft. smile


Exactly.

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Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Think alot of you are overthinking how much half a million is just cause it's Superman's key. Which is probably making it sound more impressive.

500,000 tons isn't really anything massive for the majority of these guys who have city lifting feats which should exceed that weight by alot.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how...le&ie=UTF-8

Hell Carol Danvers pushed a meteor the size of Manhattan away from Earth
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...1223_210451.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...1223_210508.png


A guy who can lift twice his body weight would probably still struggle manipulating a five lb key..

Yeah, cl100's have all sorts of feats waaaaay above 500,000 ton.

Otoh, few, if any, have feats of casually lifting that or more with the ease of lifting a dime. Doesn't matter who it is, there's almost always some degree if visable effort.


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Originally posted by Galan007
So is the objective for them to pick up the key without damaging the underlying ground/foundation, like A/S Superman did here?:
https://i.imgur.com/QW6y7He.jpg
*IOW, they cannot just rip up the entire chunk of earth the key sits on..?


If so, this could be FAR more challenging than I first thought, as the key sits relatively flush with the ground... Anyone ever try to scrape a dime(or something really thin) off a perfectly flat surface, like concrete or tile? It can be a pain in the ass just to get your fingers under the damn thing...and a dime doesn't weigh 500,000 tons.



Yeah but these guys can crush boulders with their hands like it was sand. I've always wondered what Superman had in mind when he dropped the key to his front door in front of his door? Come on in, I've got a surprise for ya?


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