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Bashar Teg
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looking more and more like there's no popular narrative to play off of, so this topic probably wont make it past page 4.


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^^Pathetic.


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^^ here we go again

Well Trump spoke to the nation about. I saw some of his words (the best words, but they seemed to be written by someone else). It was the same irrelevant bullshit, "We're praying for the victims, praying for this, praying for that. God this, God that. God Bless America."

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More then 10 rifles in the hotel room. My god.

And he was in a retirement community. How on earth did he get these things, and how many trips to the hotel did it take to smuggle everything in?


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^^ here we go again

Well Trump spoke to the nation about. I saw some of his words (the best words, but they seemed to be written by someone else). It was the same irrelevant bullshit, "We're praying for the victims, praying for this, praying for that. God this, God that. God Bless America."

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Not really much else to say at this point.

If I was president, tbh I'd feel like nothing I said could be enough. But you have to say something.


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^^ here we go again

Well Trump spoke to the nation about. I saw some of his words (the best words, but they seemed to be written by someone else). It was the same irrelevant bullshit, "We're praying for the victims, praying for this, praying for that. God this, God that. God Bless America."

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^^ here we go again

Well Trump spoke to the nation about. I saw some of his words (the best words, but they seemed to be written by someone else). It was the same irrelevant bullshit, "We're praying for the victims, praying for this, praying for that. God this, God that. God Bless America."

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What should he have said?


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What should he have said?


Just ignore them.


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But automatic weapons are banned in Nevada? This makes zero sense. We still need to ban more classifications of weapons instead of stopping crazy people.

Unfortunately that is the idealist perspective that I've tried to uphold the majority of my life. I am now switching to the realist/practical view that the US has experienced so much social decay in the last 50 years that these kind of people cannot be stopped because we've lost our traditional familial values.

Whether it's mental illness, terrorism; these people are outsiders who weren't incorporated into society. With the change of the social-values landscape comes a change in gun policy.

People are going to have to choose between their personal freedoms and safety which, for me at least, is very difficult to do. Live free or die.


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But automatic weapons are banned in Nevada? This makes zero sense. We still need to ban more classifications of weapons instead of stopping crazy people.

Unfortunately that is the idealist perspective that I've tried to uphold the majority of my life. I am now switching to the realist/practical view that the US has experienced so much social decay in the last 50 years that these kind of people cannot be stopped because we've lost our traditional familial values.

Whether it's mental illness, terrorism; these people are outsiders who weren't incorporated into society. With the change of the social-values landscape comes a change in gun policy.

People are going to have to choose between their personal freedoms and safety which, for me at least, is very difficult to do. Live free or die.


Pragmatically speaking, I'm not certain we could stop a determined psycho even if we wanted to.

Inner city gangs have rocket launchers, for gods sake. That's legal nowhere in the US, but they still manage to get them, and use them.


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What should he have said?


Oh, I forgot. Your Trump support must trump (no pun intended) your atheism, I guess.


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Oh, I forgot. Your Trump support must trump (no pun intended) your atheism, I guess.


I am an atheist, but I don't really care if people offer up prayers of support


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Pragmatically speaking, I'm not certain we could stop a determined psycho even if we wanted to.



This. Very very much.

May the victims and their families find peace.


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I am an atheist, but I don't really care if people offer up prayers of support


But you do at least acknowledge the futility of prayers, right?

Also the meaninglessness of platitudes like "God Bless America"?


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But you do at least acknowledge the futility of prayers, right?

Also the meaninglessness of platitudes like "God Bless America"?


Trump should utter magic words to resurrect the dead and heal the injured. **** Trump for not trying hard enough.


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But you do at least acknowledge the futility of prayers, right?

Also the meaninglessness of platitudes like "God Bless America"?


Well yeah prayers are pointless, as for the platitudes...they are equally pointless, but Trump has to say something.


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Pragmatically speaking, I'm not certain we could stop a determined psycho even if we wanted to.

Inner city gangs have rocket launchers, for gods sake. That's legal nowhere in the US, but they still manage to get them, and use them.
Did you read what I said?



Prayers and Condolences don't affect me anymore, nor do I feel as sympathetic for these tragedies as I used to 5 years ago because nothing ever changes. It's only getting worse, and nobody is doing anything about it. Not just "banning guns", but fixing the social climate of the country. Like I said, familial and social values are going down the toilet with each decade.


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Incredibly sad situation. All pointless death is horrible. My thoughts go out to loved ones of those who died.


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Trump should utter magic words to resurrect the dead and heal the injured. **** Trump for not trying hard enough.


Better than prayers would probably be something along the lines of, "Hey, treat everyone with respect and dignity because you don't know what's going on in their lives and inside their heads." Etc. But no, because that's what's "Supposed" to be said that's all we ever get. No honest attempts to really see the root of particular problem. Just the same clichés.


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