Grindelwald had the elder wand and still lost to Dumbledore. Dumbledore had the Elder Wand for decades and could never beat Voldemort with it.
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We have seen him in battle unlike Morgoth so it's a faulty comparison. We don't need a specific number of feats I mean hell he has about as many battle feats as Sauron did in six films. I'm sure his best is yet to come but we can form an opinion on what we have seen. If you don't feel comfortable you don't have to debate.
You already said he wins I want to know why you believe so based off the films.
Grindelwald fought not 1, not 5 nor 10, but 20 well trained Aurors without fear! He was very confident! It was clear he had control over the fight! If Scamander wouldnt have interfered...Man he might have won!
Now that was only a peak of his Powers. And it can be clearly seen that Grindelwald wasnt using the Elder Wand in that fight! So he is already very skilled.
Now, Voldemort escaped the very moment the Aurors arrived at the Mistery department! So comparing those two scenes, its clear Grindelwald is better.
Ok, that is impressive but he wasn't close to victory and we don't know the skill level of those Aurors. We do know he loses to Albus as the peak of his powers while Gellert had the elder wand in his possession. We also know Albus was unable to defeat Voldemort while Albus wielded the elder wand. That's a huge advantage for Voldemort in a direct comparison.
Voldemort was up against Aurors and Albus. We already know Gellert failed just against Albus while he wielded the most powerful wand. In the instance you referred to Albus wielded it. Another point for the true dark lord.
I would go with quality over quantity here. Dumbledore>>>>random aurors IMO.
Also in the books the aurors are even more disappointing. They just aren't as capable as you'd think. They ended up buying supplies from the Weasley brothers stores. Things like enchanted cloaks, etc. It is baffling that these things weren't already in usage by the people meant to hunt down dark wizards.
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It could have been the greatest duel of all time, bu it doesn't mean Grindelwald is more powerful than Voldemort. Voldemort was not really interested in having a fight to the death with Dumbledore when they faced off. While the duel between Dumbledore and Grindelwald obviously would have been intensely personal as well.
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Well Voldemort fought Dunbledore in the Mistery Dpt. Dubledore didnt even struggle holding Voldemort. Voldemort tried his best to kill them! He failed.
Grindelwald faced 20+ Aurochs solo, that is something Voldemort could never do.
As i said, we would have to wait for FB2 to draw better conclusions.
So you admit Aurors and one other character far less than Albus defeated him easily. You just undid your own case but what makes it worse is Grindelwald was defeated by Albus alone.
Nah, he hasn't beaten anyone of exceptional skill and doesn't have Voldemort's feats. He loses.
No, they didnt defeat him. The beast captured Grindelwald which is different from defeating him.
I dont see how Voldemort would do any better. He ran the moment the aurors reach the Mistery department. He would have had no chance against the amount of Aurors Grindelwald faced.
That is defeating him. They didn't kill him but that isn't their way.
Voldemort was up against the elder wand and Albus who is far superior to Sca. Speculation. Grindelwald lost. He failed. He was cut off and beaten. Voldemort is smarter than Grindelwald.
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