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Which is why the best way to make this fight fair is to simply give each combatant a single sword. Period. Now discuss.


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Which is why the best way to make this fight fair is to simply give each combatant a single sword. Period. Now discuss.
No, it would be more fair to make them both completely naked and unarmed. That way they can only depend on their own personal prowess to win. That's as fair as it gets. thumb up


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Which is why the best way to make this fight fair is to simply give each combatant a single sword. Period. Now discuss.


Or you could give them both armor...

Either way Sandor walks her down, takes a few bug bites and snaps her neck.

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[QUOTE=16359640]Originally posted by Psychotron
That wouldn't be a fight, that would be assassination. [/QUOTE

And 5 foot tall Arya vs 6'6 Sandor in full plate with her very short rapier is futile because she could only target his facr and maybe hands. You cant have it both ways.


Uh, no. That's how Arya PREFERS to fight.

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If Brienne couldnt, i don't see why Sandor could.

It's totally different. The Hound would go to any measure in order to kill Arya, as opposed to just sparring

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Because they were sparring, they weren't fighting for their lives. Totally different


How?

You mean Brienne wanted her to win? Which is clearly she didn't intend to lose.


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Lol, Needle is Valyrian steel dude. Is harder than normal steel.


Nope

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Arya>Brienne who is > than Sandor.


Also nope


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Are we really arguing that a 5 foot nothing girl is going to beat a 6 and a half foot man at anything??

Besides that, Arya tried stabbing Clegane with needle and she couldn’t breach his armor.


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^^ Well, to be fair, I am pretty sure Arya would own him at hide and seek. stick out tongue


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Good point. thumb up


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Quick point.... When was Needle ever made of Valyrian Steel? Didn't Jon actually... ya know... have the sword made by Mikken the Winterfell Blacksmith for Arya?


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When was Needle ever made of Valyrian Steel?


Never. He's either honestly mistaken or outright lying. Dunno which yet.


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Quick point.... When was Needle ever made of Valyrian Steel? Didn't Jon actually... ya know... have the sword made by Mikken the Winterfell Blacksmith for Arya?


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Never. He's either honestly mistaken or outright lying. Dunno which yet.


Well, not like it was hard to research. Took me less than a minute to find this.


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Well, not like it was hard to research. Took me less than a minute to find this.



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Nope



Also nope


My mistake, not made by Valyrian steel.

But why should it matter either way, isn't like Sandor can get her.

Arya wins this.


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My mistake, not made by Valyrian steel.

But why should it matter either way, isn't like Sandor can get her.

Arya wins this.


You can believe she wins I was just pointing out factually inaccurate statements.


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You can believe she wins I was just pointing out factually inaccurate statements.


It's not a matter of belief, its a matter of who is a better fighter, which CLEARLY Arya is.

Sandor is a good fighter, but he doesn't have a chance here (If Brienne didn't had one, then why should Sandor).

Evidently Brienne is a better fighter than Sandor.

So again. Arya>Brienne>Sandor.


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It's not a matter of belief, its a matter of who is a better fighter, which CLEARLY Arya is.

Sandor is a good fighter, but he doesn't have a chance here (If Brienne didn't had one, then why should Sandor).

Evidently Brienne is a better fighter than Sandor.

So again. Arya>Brienne>Sandor.


Brienne isn't a better fighter. The Hound was weak due to the infection on his neck.

And Arya didn't beat Brienne either. You clearly see that Arya had the advantage because Brienne was going easy at first, doubting Arya's ability. Once she got serious they stalemated


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Brienne isn't a better fighter. The Hound was weak due to the infection on his neck.

And Arya didn't beat Brienne either. You clearly see that Arya had the advantage because Brienne was going easy at first, doubting Arya's ability. Once she got serious they stalemated


To be fair, the only "kill hit" of the entire encounter was delivered by Arya, who stopped just short of Brienne's neck.


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Here's the fight:



We see Arya winning in the beginning due to Brienne not really taking it seriously. She thinks she'll curb Arya so she basically goes "half speed". After Arya gets her once Brienne picks it up a bit. Arya gets her again and this is where Brienne gets serious. The next exchange is more intense and Brienne come out on top when she kicks Arya. As we can see by the look on her face, Brienne thinks she went too far and is concerned. Once Arya gets up the fight continues. Arya gets disarmed (a win for Brienne if they had one weapon apiece) and pulls the dagger to continue. The fight ends in a draw.

Important things to remember here are: 1. Arya was serious from jump while Brienne wasn't. 2. Brienne could have ended the fight after the kick had she not been concerned for Arya's safety.


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Brienne isn't a better fighter. The Hound was weak due to the infection on his neck.

And Arya didn't beat Brienne either. You clearly see that Arya had the advantage because Brienne was going easy at first, doubting Arya's ability. Once she got serious they stalemated


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Here's the fight:



We see Arya winning in the beginning due to Brienne not really taking it seriously. She thinks she'll curb Arya so she basically goes "half speed". After Arya gets her once Brienne picks it up a bit. Arya gets her again and this is where Brienne gets serious. The next exchange is more intense and Brienne come out on top when she kicks Arya. As we can see by the look on her face, Brienne thinks she went too far and is concerned. Once Arya gets up the fight continues. Arya gets disarmed (a win for Brienne if they had one weapon apiece) and pulls the dagger to continue. The fight ends in a draw.

Important things to remember here are: 1. Arya was serious from jump while Brienne wasn't. 2. Brienne could have ended the fight after the kick had she not been concerned for Arya's safety.



Lol. Both Arya and Brienne were on "training mode".

Arya wasn't fighting seriously neither. She had this mocking smile on her face all battle long.

Sandor isn't to the level of Brienne. Brienne is above Sandor.

Sandor isn't even considered an elite fighter. So no, he loses to Brienne of Tarth.

Arya is too fast, and too good of a fighter for Sandor to have a chance.


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