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NewGuy01
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uh, so what? we know for a fact that the emperor would neg-diff baras and the wrath in reality, so who cares if the dark council thinks they're comparable?

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It means they consider that Baras was at least powerful enough to possibly kill them all, given what they know of the Emperor's history. If not, why would they ever even consider it?

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I think it varied from person to person. Some, like Ravage, probably felt they stood to gain from it, for example. The others likely felt it too risky to gamble on whether or not Baras was lying, and let it slide. Either way, I don't think the idea that Baras or the Wrath could solo the DC is very well supported by the material...

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Well all of them seemed somewhat convinced besides Vowrawn, who knows it's BS but still considers Baras almost indestructible. Marr for example doesn't dare interfere.

It's especially telling, because they all knew Darth Venamis, Baras' master and former DC member. Who we know Baras wouldn't dare try and usurp himself so he sent the Wrath to do it. So Baras went from being an inferior to Venamis, to quite possibly being an Emperor's Voice. An insane jump at any rate.

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Jaggarath
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Pretty sure Marr thinks he can solo either Act III Thanaton or Act III Nox w/o much diff.

EDIT: When I say "pretty sure," I vaguely remember seeing a quote given to me half-a-year ago by someone.

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Jaggarath
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Found it:

Marr: "With us, you are ruler of all the Sith, answerable only to the Emperor himself."

Nox: "We'll see how long that lasts."

Marr: "I think you will find us more than equal to your threats."

Thoughts?

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Rockydonovang
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That didn't seem to refer to marr specifically

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Jaggarath
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I doubt Marr is the only one who could beat Nox. Mortis and Ravage could too, probably.

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AncientPower
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Wrath > Nox is pretty self-evident tbh.

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NewGuy01
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is baras an supreme powerful sith lord like darth thanaton? didn't think so.

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Yeah, I never thought Nox was the strongest DCM.

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Jaggarath
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Wrath > Nox is pretty self-evident tbh.

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I doubt Marr is the only one who could beat Nox. Mortis and Ravage could too, probably.

Regardless, the quote refers to the dark council, "us", as a whole.

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AncientPower
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Which is pretty damn incredible, if you think about it.

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Jaggarath
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@kbro:

Based on the wording, Marr's seemingly referring to the Dark Council individually - the "us" is used to refer to them.

Marr's not saying that only the combined power could triumph over Nox, rofl.

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AncientPower
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Regardless, the quote refers to the dark council, "us", as a whole.

Rofl, he's saying each of them are. This is pathetic.

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Rockydonovang
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Yea, if they don't think the dude who beat Baras could take them on collectively, I doubt they thought Baras could.

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AncientPower
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Yea, if they don't think the dude who beat Baras could take them on collectively, I doubt they thought Baras could.

Marr's talking to Nox not the Wrath, Baras has nothing to do with it.

Please keep displaying your utter ignorance regarding TOR Kbro,not at all hilarious.

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@kbro:

Based on the wording, Marr's seemingly referring to the Dark Council individually - the "us" is used to refer to them.

Marr's not saying that only the combined power could triumph over Nox, rofl.

Regardless of whether you interpret that to refer to the members individually or collectively, there's no favorable comparison for the nox present in the quote

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AncientPower
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Nox not being as powerful as the remaining Sith there individually at the time isn't surprising.

Though it's insane for the other DCMs considering how powerful Thanaton is.

It's not until throughout the Dread War that Nox becomes one of the chief DCMs.

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