In the English dub, King Kai states that Goku was literally forcing himself into the future when he fought Hit(via his use of SSB+KK.) That is not only how he countered the time-skip, but also why his powers were completely burned out a few episodes later.
...Though that may have *just* been stated in the English dub. Later on I'll have to look and see if the Japanese translation/subs corroborates this.
"I want you to know failure, utter defeat,
and that it is I who delivers it crashing down upon you."
Last edited by Galan007 on Jan 6th, 2018 at 06:18 PM
99.9% sure Jiren is stronger, but I really don't believe Toppo was taking his latent-god abilities into account when making that assessment. Keep in mind that Toppo also said he had no idea who would win between him and pre-tournament Goku, whereas there's no doubt that current Toppo would annihilate pre-tournament Goku.
>is 1,000+ years old, and has superior battle evolution to Saiyans
>rivals SSG in raw power despite having no god ki
>outclasses every other fighter in at least 8 universes in time/space/energy control
>regularly competes with SSB Goku, even though he's fighting contrary to his specialty
>essentially solo'd the fastest fighter in 8 universes
>is one of the 3 fighters in 8 universes that Jiren felt the need to intervene against
> Frieza rivals SSJB in power despite having no god ki
> Doesn't outclass every other fighter in actual fighting
> Android 17 competes with SSJB Goku too
> Said fastest fighter wasn't going close to all out, Golden Frieza performed far better against regular Dyspo than Hit did
> Jiren intervened against a considerably sub-SSG level fighter
__________________ ”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”
By Dragon Ball standards he's pretty cool/chill and unique as a fighter. Was going more at that, than his power level/potential. With the way power-ups or zenkais happen out of the ass now, may as well say everyone in the show of note is a mary sue/gary stu at this point...
Vegeta and especially Goku is retarded, he should have just died from runing out of stamina by now, he had 10 bazillion fights in TOP and not only he is not exhausted but he is like 20 times stronger then when the tournament started....
" Destiny arrives all the same. And now, it's here. Or should I say, I am."