I should and will clarify: the above was me lamenting not remembering about the invisible jet post-crisis Wonder Woman had in time for the Tournament of Power Id recently held.
That's why I wrote "too bad I didn't remember" instead of "I remember now".
THIS thread is current and has no real time limit. Anything I recall can be posted once I recall and retrieve it. Id's tournament, however, though the JUDGING is still ongoing as I type this, had a deadline for participant submissions, which passed many weeks ago.
Why would it have been good to remember, if the jet was not part of Wondy's standard equipment?
Because in the stips for his tournament, linked here:
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Equipment: Standard equipment. Characters that can store and recall equipment in pocket dimension are allowed to recall them, and are treated as standard equipment. Example Kang the Conqueror.
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And Wondy has several times throughout her post-1985 history demonstrated having stuff that was extra-dimensional, most recently in her DCnU incarnation where she could literally pull weapons from the gauntlets on her wrists.
Now, to be fair, different writers are going to be of different opinions.
Nor is the opinion of a villain necessarily gospel.
In point of fact, in the previous arc, the JLA member with the best fight record against the White Martians was Batman, who took on 3 or 4 of the Martians, more or less at once, and was teased about age taking away some of his edge by Wally or Kyle. Part of that will be shown in some later scans if Turbo Image holds out for me today and time permits.
For that matter, the White Martians will eventually be slain by Fernus in the next arc, a Martian with even more power than any of them, so much so that the entire League will be hard pressed to match Fernus, who is actually an altered form of J'onn Jonnz himself. And there the tide of battle will be turned by none other than "red" Plastic Man, whose unique physiology makes him immune to Martian telepathic attack and mind control. Then, too, this 2nd Martian arc features a marked contradiction from the previous series. There the Martians were dependent on air. Here, far from needing oxygen, the Martian plan is to remove oxygen from the Earth, suffocating its inhabitants and making them master of our solar system. How do you deal with such contradictions? At the least, they should be addressed.
Source: JLA #3
Arc: New World Order
Circa: 1997(?)
If you want to present something I won't be showing, put some speed-steal scans up here. With the exception of Justice League of America #23, Volume 2, I won't be able to present those, unless I accidentally stumble across some, for the simple fact that I don't know where more are to be found.
I'd be interested in knowing about how many times Flash has done so in the past. If it's not at least a couple, it's somewhat akin to what some poster argued in the following thread about Juggernaut using shrinking spells on people ...
One of the very few instances I know of where Flash does actually use speed stealing on an opponent. I note here that it's only partial, though. By itself, it does NOT neutralize the threat Amazo presents. It doesn't seem to work for very long, either, and the damage inflicted on Flash himself in the exchange apparently causes Flash to pass out. To be fair, though, we ARE talking about Amazo -- few writers would allow anything less than a team or deus ex machina solution to work on a villain of this caliber early on -- and the super speed he still seems to possess could easily have been gleaned from Superman, Wonder Woman, or both.
The point of the Supergirl ep (Supergirl #4) was to show that Flash can and often does get distracted or ignore features of his environment when fighting his opponents. It's also worth pointing out Wonder Woman is a strategist who often DOES consider such things and can very quickly take a battle to a place that gives her an advantage against tough opponents. In this example, for instance, JLA #4, Diana takes on Primaid, a White Martian who stunned and cratered Superman in their first encounter, and then gained the upper hand against J'onn here:
After an interlude where Zum, the White Martian I.m.p.'d by Flash takes on Aquaman and gets schooled, we see Diana make (somewhat) quick work of her foe:
This is instructive for another reason, mentioned before. Note that this move would not (hopefully under a DIFFERENT writer, travesty if the same) work on Primaid at the time of Terror Incognita, JLA #58.
Primaid by then had been RETCONNED into requiring no air to breathe.
Presumably, by that time, so had Diana.
Oh, if we are posting scans where the combatants are master strategists:
Wally out-thinks a supercomputer the size of a sun - faith placed in him by no less than Batman, who tells him to be ready to out-think the ultimate computer: https://static.comicvine.com/upload...51475-29623.jpg
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