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Marka Ragnos vs. Emperor Palpatine
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BlueTiger1144
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Nowhere is it stated that they overwhelmed Palpatine.

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as far as I understand.



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It took place in 0ABY, as far as I understand.


First you claim it's between ESB and RotJ, now circa-ANH?

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Well yes, Droga's arrival drove them off but then again it's stated that they overwhelmed Palpatine. So regardless, they attacked him and he required saving before being placed in a bacta tank. He didn't just heal himself through the Force, so evidently it was serious.


We know they attacked and injured him. We don't know when, how and under what circumstances. It could've been a cheapshot and if Droga -- a relative scrub who's sub Mara Jade, Jerec and Sedriss -- is enough to help Sheev drive them off then evidently it's fairly sketchy.

This is also assuming there is only one instances where Sith spirits attacked Sidious; the one in BoS and Gamer might not even be the same instance, since as per DE we know Sidious has tussled with the spirits of Korriban in the past.

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Not at all, I take things at face value and know for a fact that Ragnos was head of the ancient Sith spirits. Nadd included.


Taking things at face value isn't always a good thing, and Marka might've led some fodder spirits back in Kun's time, but we don't know if he's leading them during Sidious' time. The spirits that attacked Sheev in DE certainly had a stunning lack of Ragnos.


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Because it's vague as hell, it's post-Death Star I and pre-Death Star II, if someone had the Comics Companion then that might clear it up.

I am not arguing that there isn't some context, but I'm also struggling to believe that Sidious of all Sith would be taken so easily off-guard. Especially given that he knows full well how dangerous they are.

If you can name any other 'ancient' Sith spirits who were actively on Korriban at this time, besides Marka Ragnos, and more powerful than he is, then I'd agree. I just find it exceedingly coincidental that he manages to comment on that exact part of the text with that event. (It's never mentioned that he went there more than twice by DE.)


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Ok it was shortly after the Battle of Yavin where the whole thing with Palps, Droga and the Sith spirits.

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Shortly after the Battle of Yavin, Droga rescued his cowed master after Palpatine had enraged the mummified Sith by demanding dark side knowledge.

- Gamer 5


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Oh snap, the Sith Spirits had cowed the so-called most powerful Sith Lord of all time.


Sheev brigade scrambling for damage control.


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cow

verb

past tense: cowed; past participle: cowed

cause (someone) to submit to one's wishes by intimidation.


They made Sheev their b*tch, lmfao.

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The secret long kept by the Sheevites....revealed....decades of hard work...

Time to switch to the TOR brigade.


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Is that quote canon? Also, how many of them did it take to subdue him?

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The secret long kept by the Sheevites....revealed....decades of hard work...

Time to switch to the TOR brigade.


Nah, Droga's rescue of Sheev has been public knowledge since the Antediluvian days. It was referenced again in Book of Sith.

It's just that no one really cared. As Myth pointed out, the details are unknown.

An ironic piece of trivia: the authors of both sources would later go on to call Palpatine the most powerful Sith Lord ever in Who's Who: imperial Grand Admirals and multiple times in the Book of Sith endnotes.

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Looks like the idea that those two accolades were in reference to polictal / military capital is basically confirmed given that those authors had Sheev getting stomped by spirits. laughing

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The secret long kept by the Sheevites....revealed....decades of hard work...

Time to switch to the TOR brigade.


smile

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Sheevites dying off, Gideon panicking. KMC is alive again

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I'm in the throes of abject terror, indeed.

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Will Ragnos reign as KMC's premier Sith once more?! :O


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Will Ragnos reign as KMC's premier Sith once more?! :O

Behind Kun, yes

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Palpatine wins, but it's not easily. Ragnos is more than powerful enough to give Palpatine a decent fight.

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Originally posted by godemperortrump
Behind Kun, yes


That calls for another thread.


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This might be my all-time greatest reveal.


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