What anti sentry tirade? Are you really this paranoid?
I don't care one bit about Sentry for any tirade. Failed clone is a failed clone. He deserves to be in limbo.
What you think he irrelevant. You need TK to bring rocks to act like that. If he transmutated them into living giants then it would be matter manipulation.
Only a bitter little adolescent boy would confuse realism with pessimism
Could you tell us where it is said, that it's not matter manipulation for Death Seed Sentry?
I would assume, because during his fight against the Molecule Man he got exposed to the actual process of it for the first time and figured it out. In the end he also said he was able to control it.
To be fair: Horsemen at times did have addtional powers. In Uncanny Avengers Daken for example had toxic claws, which messed Wolverine up real good.
It's not crazy to think, that the Sentry might have gotten new powers as a Horseman of Death. IF he was a regular character. The actual argument is that his power set is based on him warping the reality on a molecular level. Pretty much everything we saw him do in Uncanny Avengers had been done by him before.
Creating sand golems in Uncanny Avengers? In Dark Avengers he has created a werewolf and before that he has created plenty of objects like the Watchtower or his clothes.
You're ignoring context.
How many effective issues of existence did he have post Dark Avengers? In Dark Avengers he used offensive molecule manipulation against Molecule Man, a gun his wife used to attempt to kill herself and then we already got Siege, where he used it to kill Loki. Other than that he used regular manipulation to create a living being and what-not.
And in the end of the day: What in your opinion is Sentrys ability to summon dark, evil tentacles from the sky, which either explode upon impact or send victims into a mental shock? Oh and also can travel through time?
Is it magic? Is Sentry in your opinion a wizard? I just don't understand your line of thinking. Help me out here a little bit.
Do you need telekinesis to create a werewolf? Because that's what he did in Dark Avengers.
If he all of a sudden wasn't able to create sand golems with molecule manipulation, then it would be a power downgrade.
That's not only the question, but also pretty much the most important part about the Horsemen of Death story.
It's safe to say that the Death Seeds were an amp in one form or another. The Horsemen of Death were more potent and some of them displayed new powers. So ultimately they were more powerful. But in the end of the day Daken got beaten by Wolverine, Grim Reaper by Rogue and Banshee by Havok and Wasp, if I recall correctly. So their power levels weren't THAT much higher than their old power levels.
Sentry on the other hand? Nothing suggests that the Death Seed amped him up that much higher than it did every other Horseman of Death. Yet his power level still put him up magnitudes above not only Thor but possibly also above the combined powers of over 100 heroes.
And it's nothing we would have seen the first time, because when the Void appeared, you still needed a city full of heroes to somewhat stalemate him. And in the end it still always took the Sentry himself to stop the Void.
Because you're making a flawed, baseless argument in the first place.
Again: Show us, where it was stated that it wasn't molecule manipulation.
I mean, you know what a retcon is. And that retcon of his power set in Dark Avengers explained all the mysterious stuff about the Sentry. Sentry isn't Superman. Superman can't wish his suit into existence. Superman can't teleport. Superman can't resurrect the dead. Superman can't erase peoples memories simply by thinking.
For the longest time that were just random powers for the Sentry, but in Dark Avengers we got an explanation: That guy controls reality itself by manipulating the molecules around him.
I've never said, that Sentry is above cosmic cubes. Not many characters are.
There are still levels to molecule manipulation and reality warping. Just because you have those abilities, doesn't mean that you're automatically in the cosmic bracket and can compete with the likes of Eternity, Death and what-not. If we buy into extreme levels of hyperbole Sentry stalemating Galactus is already insanity, when it comes to power levels.
His powers were ill defined up until the moment, where he went: "Oh. I control molecules. That's how I do what I do. Now I can control it."
And from that point on he was using these abilities at will.
The only problem is, when people point out a moment from older Sentry comics and cry about how he didn't use offensive molecule manipulation at that point. He didn't, because he wasn't actively aware of the full extent of his powers.
He still had a vague idea of what he was capable of doing, since we've seen him heal people and give them untreatable cancer. As well as teleport, erase memories and whatever. That doesn't just come from having a random power set.