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krisblaze
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The DS boost had to be considerable.

Banshee is a baseline human and he took -everything- Havok had.

Remender had Havok clearly effect Thor earlier in the arc.


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The DS boost had to be considerable.
Banshee is a baseline human and he took -everything- Havok had.
Remender had Havok clearly effect Thor earlier in the arc.


Baseline Banshee is one thing, but Death Seed Banshee had an armor on, which caushed the heroes quite some trouble.
Havok said that he couldn't get through the armor from the outside, which is why Wasp destroyed it from the inside. Then Havok used his powers on Banshee and knocked him out with just one shot. Granted, it took everything out of Havok, but Banshee still had the majority of his armor on.

So I still disagree, that the Horsemen amps were as considerable as some people believe them to be.

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Because you're making a flawed, baseless argument in the first place.


You clearly have no idea how a debate works. You don't post a baseless claim and ask to prove it wrong.

If you are so sure that it was matter manipulation, it must be mentioned somewhere, right?
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Again: Show us, where it was stated that it wasn't molecule manipulation.

I mean, you know what a retcon is. And that retcon of his power set in Dark Avengers explained all the mysterious stuff about the Sentry. Sentry isn't Superman. Superman can't wish his suit into existence. Superman can't teleport. Superman can't resurrect the dead. Superman can't erase peoples memories simply by thinking.

You'd be surprised.

But no, it doesn't explains everything in his history. It made his already messy origin even messier.
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For the longest time that were just random powers for the Sentry, but in Dark Avengers we got an explanation: That guy controls reality itself by manipulating the molecules around him.


Which he never did before or after.

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I've never said, that Sentry is above cosmic cubes. Not many characters are.


Well at least you're not as hopeless as realitywarper.

Appreciate that.

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There are still levels to molecule manipulation and reality warping. Just because you have those abilities, doesn't mean that you're automatically in the cosmic bracket and can compete with the likes of Eternity, Death and what-not. If we buy into extreme levels of hyperbole Sentry stalemating Galactus is already insanity, when it comes to power levels.


Maybe, maybe not. But this isn't a discussion about the power levels.
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His powers were ill defined up until the moment, where he went: "Oh. I control molecules. That's how I do what I do. Now I can control it."

And from that point on he was using these abilities at will.


Could you show us where it was stated that everywhere else it was matter manipulation?

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The only problem is, when people point out a moment from older Sentry comics and cry about how he didn't use offensive molecule manipulation at that point. He didn't, because he wasn't actively aware of the full extent of his powers.


I don't. I'm only asking for the newer comics after Dark Avengers.
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He still had a vague idea of what he was capable of doing, since we've seen him heal people and give them untreatable cancer. As well as teleport, erase memories and whatever. That doesn't just come from having a random power set.


Tell that to characters like Exodus who pull a power like that every other week.


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Originally posted by Enzeru
Baseline Banshee is one thing, but Death Seed Banshee had an armor on, which caushed the heroes quite some trouble.
Havok said that he couldn't get through the armor from the outside, which is why Wasp destroyed it from the inside. Then Havok used his powers on Banshee and knocked him out with just one shot. Granted, it took everything out of Havok, but Banshee still had the majority of his armor on.

So I still disagree, that the Horsemen amps were as considerable as some people believe them to be.

Baseline Sentry was never that physically strong. Even Jenkins said Hulk was stronger than Sentry.


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Superior in what? Character? Mythos? Supporting cast? Impact on history?


Superior in all aspects.

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Why would a Superman fan would be pissed at a failed clone who is in limbo for years now?


And yet here you are. You tell us.

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I'm still waiting for the proof that it was matter manipulation.


I've already stated that it was never said. Your the one thats hell bent on it being TK for some reason.


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You clearly have no idea how a debate works. You don't post a baseless claim and ask to prove it wrong.


He's not the one that just casually ignores on panel proof whenever he feels like it though. For you to tell somebody how a debate works is asinine.

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If you are so sure that it was matter manipulation, it must be mentioned somewhere, right?


It was never stated what method he used, so why are you so convinced it was TK? Its as if your upset that he even possesses matter manipulation and your trying everything in your power to disprove he has.


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He's not the one that just casually ignores on panel proof whenever he feels like it though. For you to tell somebody how a debate works is asinine.



It was never stated what method he used, so why are you so convinced it was TK? Its as if your upset that he even possesses matter manipulation and your trying everything in your power to disprove he has.
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Superman fans have Sentry envy. Sentry would smite him.


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Superman fans have Sentry envy. Sentry would smite him.


And thats really all it boils down to.


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And thats really all it boils down to.


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Superior in all aspects.


Only in your dreams.
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And yet here you are. You tell us.


And here you're as well, bitching and moaning as always.

Here is a hint: Nobody cares.
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I've already stated that it was never said. Your the one thats hell bent on it being TK for some reason.


So I take you didn't say it was matter manipulation on the first page?


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He's not the one that just casually ignores on panel proof whenever he feels like it though. For you to tell somebody how a debate works is asinine.


Starting to white knighting as well, huh?

You've been on this site for what, thirteen years now? What have you actually done in terms of debate?


Talk to me about a debate when you actually learn what it is.
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It was never stated what method he used, so why are you so convinced it was TK? Its as if your upset that he even possesses matter manipulation and your trying everything in your power to disprove he has.


Why do you think that that anyone will be upset over something like this?

Prove it was matter manipulation as you claimed or shut up with your whining.


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And thats really all it boils down to.

laughing out loud

Such self importance. Is this the only way to cope with being a Sentry fan? That everyone else is jealous of his power?

Are you sure you are not in kindergarten?


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Abhi having a hate boner against Sentry, denying everything and confusing molecule manipulation (reality warping) for matter manipulation.

There is nothing new here...


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Originally posted by quanchi112
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Superman fans have Sentry envy. Sentry would smite him.


Clearly...


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So I take you didn't say it was matter manipulation on the first page?


I said I felt it was. You were the one jumping on the TK bandwagon the first chance you had.


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Barf

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You've been on this site for what, thirteen years now? What have you actually done in terms of debate


Proved that your incapable of doing so


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Apart from Superman being irrelevant in this thread. A serious question, how are DS Sentry and Genis putting Thanos down who went up against the PF?


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Proved that your incapable of doing so
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Proved that your incapable of doing so


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Apart from Superman being irrelevant in this thread. A serious question, how are DS Sentry and Genis putting Thanos down who went up against the PF?


Good question. Plus, Thane DOES have the PF here.


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