Your interpretation of contradictiing on panel facts (MM telling us blatantly with his alt persona that he wants to fail, and this "no no no, I didn't mean to (or I just tried)" is nothing new, it hardens the words of the beyoner personality) and you wanting me to prove a negative is all that is left it seems.
"Rick Remender removed Sentry from the story because he is too powerful."
So powerful that all it took was a Giant Worm...
Honestly, I can understand the reasoning of almost any opinion, even Carvers from time to time, and where it comes from. Yours is just a single feat against a depowered being and all you have left for all his other showings, all his defeats, are excuses (they wanted to put him out of the story, he wanted to die, he was not aware how powerful he is that's why BM koed him blablabla.)
As it stands, Sentry has one good feat against a weakened opponent in a human body and a shit of lows against far far lesser beings in superhuman bodies.
His average is hence HH to low Trans at best. In the dreams of his fans it might be higher. If you ask the majority of the Sentry fans they will agree I guess, there is your example of Argumentum Ad Populum. And for christs sake stop using this pseudo intellectual BS, it doesn't make your arguments appear smarter or more valid.
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Molecule Man doesn't have alternate personaes.
Those beings he created where the manifestations of his delusions and the expression of his paranoia.
You are even confusing symptoms which doesn't exist with a context you are creating to suits your own narrative.
Molecule Man is defending his territory in Dinosaur, Colorado.
He doens't want to be found or lose.
The feats are here, the context is here: He kills /subdue/dominate everyone whom wants to interfere in his self-conservative process.
"Rick Remender removed Sentry from the story because he is too powerful."
What did the giant worm besides swallowing him and carrying him away ?
Nothing.
Remenber needed to carry Sentry away to allow Thor and Wasp to fulfill their mission which failed in the end.
That's not true actually.
A) MM was at full power.
B) I've told you that Sentry power was hyped for years in the purpose of showing that fight against Molecule Man.
Tony Stark already said that Sentry was capable to start a new House of M event on a simple whim during Civil War but you continue to ignore that because it doesn't fit your narrative.
You are making-up a reasoning, I'm coming with facts and they are even backed-up by Bendis in the interviews about his own work.
I am exposing the context.
This little paragraph shows that you chose willingly to ignore the context and that's not a valuable argument.
A full powered Molecule Man.
I'm still waiting for you too to prove that Molecule Man was somehow weakened/depowered by showing a scan of Molecule Man saying that he cannot do something in Dark Avengers.
That should be easy because you are still adamant on your positions since we talked about it, right.
Please show me that scan.
What ???
You are making a gross oversimplification.
All of Molecule Man showings have context but that's easier for you to put everything in the same bag, right ?
Argumentum Ex Culo.
Yes, that's one more example of Argumentum Ad Populum.
Now that's just a meaningless opinion on my arguments. "Pseudo-intellectual BS".
My arguments are all in context and backed-up with the stories, and even more by the writers of the said stories.
I'm still waiting for you to show that scan of Molecule Man saying that he cannot manipulate X type of molecules or that he cannot do something or that he is somehow weakened or depowered. I will be waiting for long because, like your arguments, this scan doesn't exist.
Haha my god you’re dumb he regained his power from the quarry.He was classed as a god, hence why he had god cancer. You posted a single scan trying to make it look otherwise doesn’t override the on panel facts stating it was his power.
Again sand worm or even a slightly amped Thor killing him.
so nothing again other than ignoring on panel proof .
You can even read your own scan correctly, it says the quarry is the place of gods power and they can’t simply give it back. Thanos even says he came for HIS power.
"I control the molecules of my world. That's how I do what I do. I never knew that. How could I? No one could. Not Reed Richards. Not Tony Stark."
^ Sentry himself tells you, that whatever he does comes from him controlling molecules. Him teleporting? Molecule manipulation. Him resurrecting the dead? Molecule manipulation. That comic retconned his beforehand vague and unexplained power set.
So your entire issue with Sentrys power set is explained to you by the character himself.
It was a powerset retcon.
A good example for you would be Superman in the DC Cinematic Universe. When we saw him and Zod fly, you could see dust hovering around them. So the movies indicated mental powers / telekinesis. The most powerful telekinesis users in comics can even move molecules and with such an ability it would be easy for Man of Steel Superman to fly, have super strength, super durability and even shoot laser beams out of his eyes (by accelerating the molecules to heaten them up) or use freeze breath (by slowing molecules down).
So that way Man of Steel Superman doesn't have just random ass powers. It's actually explained.
For the Sentry it's explained as well now: molecule manipulation.
"Hey guys, it's me: Prof. T.C. McAbe! Let's battle board a little bit! My character wins, because here are all the low showings for your character and here is one, single, over the top showing for my character. Obviously my character is much more powerful than yours, because your character got knocked out by a deer!"
Come on now.
Thanos has been bloodied up by Namor, someone who didn't land a single punch on the Sentry during the Dark Avengers + X-Men crossover.
Thanos been bloodied up by the Avengers, characters the Sentry can easily snap in half.
Thanos needed tech to destroy the Earth, something the Sentry can do while holding back.
You don't argue fights by focusing on the low showings of one character and the highest showings of the other character. That's called being biased. And being biased ruins the fun immediately.
Also Reed Richards put Sentry and the Phoenix Force on equal footings, when it comes to the danger, when they attack. Sentry would punch Thanos into oblivion.
Where is that said logic?
No. Sentry manipulated the molecules of THE Molecule Man, who was actively trying to fight back, but couldn't. Human durability has nothing to do with it, especially if a molecule manipulator can easily increase their own durability.
Look at Silver Surfer facing Molecule Man. A weaker Molecule Man version even. Silver Surfer also has the ability to manipulate molecules, but he got utterly stomped by Molecule Man. Again, a weaker version.
No. You're pulling a Galan007 and Mr. Master here and rephrasing 1/4 of the stuff, that has been said in the comics, while ignoring the other 3/4. Why? Because it suits your argument.
Yeah, one of Molecule Mans illusions said, that Molecule Man wanted to be found and lose. But at the same time other illusions said plenty of other stuff, which didn't matter in the end.
Yet for some reason you choose to go with the one thing, that suits your argument, even though it holds no more value than the other imaginary stuff does. Why? Because it suits your argument.
Did you even read the comic? Sentry made it pretty clear, that he didn't want to kill Thor. He was holding back the entire time. The moment he had enough, he KOed Thor with one punch and attempted to ... guess what? ... GO MM on him. We saw his tendrils of darkness approaching Thor, but then he got removed from the battlefield.
No. A simple Sand Worm served as a plot device and removed him from the battlefield. Remender had written himself into a corner with the Sentry, just like writers of other powerful characters had done so before.
And unfortunately for the Sentry in the comics and in this debate with you, Remender is not the best person, when it comes to avoiding easy-plot-device-way-outs.
Sentry looked at the Sand Worm and said "Oh". And then he got removed from the fight.
Yet in Remenders own comics with Sentry, we've seen Sentry travel hundreds of kilometers before Wolverine could say a single word. We've seen Sentry travel many, many miles, before Punisher could finish thinking a single word. Yet now all of a sudden he can't fly away from a Sand Worm attacking him? Give me a break.
Also the character can teleport.
But I think you know all of that. You either stick with your opinion just to troll RealityWarper, or because you're ignorant.
Uhm... Because Sentry is not as stupid as you think he is and knows, that by killing a Celestial he would doom the entire planet? You know, because the wrath of the Celestials would be mighty at that point. That's also what the character himself told you, yet you choose to ignore it.
And that is if the Sentry even has the needed power to kill someone like Exitar on a molecular level? If not, then his only other option was to use his strength and stop his descent, while the Avengers figure out something else.
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If you read the scan correctly you get that:
A) The God Carry only posses the power of all the Old Gods, not Thanos.
B) Thanos wanted to be back at full power to fight Thane. He got more than that because the God Quarry delivered him all the power of all the Old Gods and he got more than his original power.
C) Thanos got bitchstomped by the LAPD and humiliated by a Kid. so he is clearly a weakling.
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It is said twice in the summary of Thanos #11 & #12 that Thanos claimed enough power to beat a Thane amped by the Phoenix Force plus the scan that I've already makes it 3 instances that proves you wrong.
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The story with Spider-man is canon by the way.
Oh ! And Thanos lost to Squirrel Girl !
You are worse than a noob ! You can't read and understand what is crystal clear on panel !
haha you still can’t read and posting a synopsis proves nothing. You just simply ignore all the panel proof stating it’s his power he went to regain. Not once is it said he gained all the power from the other gods. He gained enough to because it was his own, Lemaire states he believes Thanos to be one of the most powerful villains in marvel.
what a sad troll. The Spider-Man story was published by a electricity company as promotion.
More lies. Groot has never beat Thanos , all he’s done is punch him with no real harm. If you actually knew your stuff you know a very weak ko’d Groot with a punch in Imperative:Ignition.
Here’s your big chance, let’s see proof that Thanos gained all the power from the god quarry.
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Thanos can't even fight a weakened version of the Beyonder without shitting his pants, knowing that if his vessel is destroyed and the true Beyonder released, he will kill Thanos effortlessly...
I'm a Sentry fan as everybody knows, but my opinion of the character is this-
I agree that Own was depowered. Compared to the Owen that was snapping his fingers and repairing universes while having a casual conversation with the Beyonder,,,,,,,way depowered. I don't think theres any question about that and never was on the side that it was a fully powered MM. The feat was still pretty beastly though from Sentry. So beastly that most comic characters have no business even getting in the ring with him.
The sand worm is what it is. The creature definitely detained Dsentry in the story. Anti Sentry fans love to bring it up as a horrible showing for him and they have the right to do so I suppose, but if the creature could restrain Dsentry, how bad would other characters fare against it?
I cant get behind the lowballing of Thor killing Sentry though. Bob did in fact allow that to happen.