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Should terrorists get the death penalty?
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I mean, I'm against losing valuable sources of information, but for the protection of other people, I think there may be a case for the death penalty in extreme circumstances.

This is not a thread for bashing muslims.


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You see I find when people say certain things like in your post they show how utterly retarded they are. "This could interfere with finding an impartial jury". Lol, WHAT? You will NOT find one, not unless you send out jury duty notices only to people living in caves or beneath rocks.

There will never be an impartial jury for this terrorist piece of shit. These lawmakers are insane if they think so lol.

To answer your question: he should be executed immediately. If they won't execute him then he needs to be in solitary 24/7 for the rest of his life.


I wouldn't put it like that. An impartial jury is a very real concern, otherwise why bother with a trial.

What I WOULD ask is, why bother with a trial when one's guilt is literally beyond all doubt?

I'm not asking what the law says in this case, but more whether this is a practical concern on any level.

He did it, we all know he did. So why a trial?


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I wouldn't put it like that. An impartial jury is a very real concern, otherwise why bother with a trial.

What I WOULD ask is, why bother with a trial when one's guilt is literally beyond all doubt?

I'm not asking what the law says in this case, but more whether this is a practical concern on any level.

He did it, we all know he did. So why a trial?
Formality. Gotta keep a record of these things, yaknow?


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The ONLY way to get a truly "Impartial Jury" in this world of the 24/7 News Cycle means that ALL Juries must now be made up entirely of HardCore Amish People. Its the only way to be "IMPARTIAL!"


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Just to chime in, but shouldn't death penalty be an option for all instances of murder?


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^ With overwhelming evidence...yes imo


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^ With overwhelming evidence...yes imo

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Also, today DNA tests and other high-tech inventions can help out in cases that were too complex to solve in previous decades.


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^ Yeah that could work both ways. Nail the guilty parties and help anyone wrongly accused


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In extreme uncurable circumstances, I think the death penalty may be viable, yet I still think it's useful to keep these people alive for science.


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In extreme uncurable circumstances, I think the death penalty may be viable, yet I still think it's useful to keep these people alive for science.


Pertaining to psychosis I assume? I don't think you are curing a serial killer/rapist. They are the way they are imo.


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Pertaining to psychosis I assume? I don't think you are curing a serial killer/rapist. They are the way they are imo.
but why they are is intriguing enough to research for prevention of further terrorists.


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He should be interrogated and imprisoned, no sense wasting money of a counterintuitive and immoral practice. Especially when death is exactly what he probably wanted in the first place.


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^ In this instance, let's give it to him. What really is there to figure out? They're psychos who abuses a religion to justify killing people they don't agree with. The end.


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They are extremists who have been radicalised by a very real terroist movement, finding out how that happened for this particular guy could help with terroist prevention in the future.


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Coercion, false promises, an ideology that seems more attractive then their current situations, faulty logic. Take your pick. I really don't think it's a mystery why they turn to the dark side so to speak. A lot of these low level fools know so little about what they are doing or why they are doing it, that keeping them alive for questioning seems like a waste to me.


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interrogate to get info. if no info is given then bury them in a vat of bacon grease. it's time to stop playing games with lives at stake


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Not bothered if they execute him tbh. But I do wanna see a trial.

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Not bothered if they execute him tbh. But I do wanna see a trial.


he's due a trial.


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Coercion, false promises, an ideology that seems more attractive then their current situations, faulty logic. Take your pick. I really don't think it's a mystery why they turn to the dark side so to speak. A lot of these low level fools know so little about what they are doing or why they are doing it, that keeping them alive for questioning seems like a waste to me.
Iím not sayings itís a mystery lol, but none of what you said is detailed enough for any kind of actionable strategy. Getting the specifics of how he was radicalised could prevent others from being radicalised through those same channels, or heck even finding out if he has any terroist prone buddies that the govt. should be aware of.


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^ Social media has become a big way to recruit, but from what I understand about this latest incident, he was from the middle east and was pretty much already indoctrinated. I may be mixing him up with a different terrorist though.


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