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Okay, but I'm speaking to motivations lol. She was motivated not because "I just wanna see females doing well". She felt entitled to it and was willing to use the "first female president thing" to exploit it.

She did portray herself as that. What I'm saying if the reality was Hilary just cared about Hilary. There is nothing wrong with that, it's just not true to say she was working for women as a whole. She didn't decide to throw her weight behind a non-toxic female candidate, lol.
Well, sure. If a man did that I respect that man. If hillary or thatcher did that, I'd give them respect, is all I'm saying.

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Cool, but it should come as no surprise to you when people begin to troll/bash you.
I can handle that.


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If a country like Qatar can buy ads lobbying against a blockade or whatever on our own television networks, then why shouldn't Russia be able to buy ads on Facebook?

Other countries buy ads and put out propaganda all the time.
Bu-but-but we want le trump to lose so we can have le last laugh, bro.


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Well no, I get it. But you wouldn't say the man was doing it for all men lol. Hilary wanted it for H-Doggy Dog. Trump wanted it for Trump.


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One actually equated a win for Clinton being a win for Satan.

And who could argue with that?

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But the question still remains. Why is Russia meddling in our election in the first place? It should not be.

My guess is that Russians meddle in everything they think will benefit them or create a chaos that is beneficial to them in some shape or form. Same with the US, same with the Chinease.


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Well no, I get it. But you wouldn't say the man was doing it for all men lol. Hilary wanted it for H-Doggy Dog. Trump wanted it for Trump.
As a Trump fan, I respect her for her efforts.

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And who could argue with that?


My guess is that Russians meddle in everything they think will benefit them or create a chaos that is beneficial to them in some shape or form. Same with the US, same with the Chinease.
Well, should we consider Russia an enemy? I don't, but as a Polish Earthian, you may disagree?


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As a Trump fan, I respect her for her efforts.

Indeed. She was resilient, that's for sure.

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Well, should we consider Russia an enemy? I don't, but as a Polish Earthian, you may disagree?

I don't either. Russian Communism is over. Now we have something else there, not necessarily as sinister.

I try to approach matters of politics in a pragmatic way. In order to do so, one must try to understand the other side.

That of course does not mean that one cannot make value judgements on Soviet Communism or Nazi Socialism, but it is not a mattter of nationality per se, but ideology.

Besides, consider this, unless one is really bend of sh***ing on his/her own country most people are nationalistic patriots either way.


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Sure.

Respect to Russia imo like Nigel Farage respects Russia. Politics is very complicated, yet Russia's influences is not like a threat to us. I mean FFS, these retards are trying to argue that le ebul Russki are hacking arrr election wiv FBIbook.


Idiots. Bashar Teg and Robtard are idiots. Put them on ignore. /my advice


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This might be a strange question, but: do you think there is any group(anywhere) where it is OKAY for them to meddle in a US election?

Like, the DNC interfered as well. Do they have more of a right to interfere in our elections? Because I don't think anyone, I don't care where you are from or what country, has that right.

And yet...if social media ads are interference, what would we label the utter hate-fest some of our media spewed out against certain candidates? Is that okay? Is there some "you live here so you can interfere" thing? Like, I can hit my baby brother, but you can't?


I'm still genuinely curious about how people would answer this.

Since to me, the DNC interfering is not somehow less wrong than any other group doing so. They don't get a pass because they're Americans. In fact, it makes it even worse. Especially seeing them turn around and whine over Russian interference. Then having them also fund a dossier that used a british spy with a bunch of Russian connections, lol.

I am curious for any leftist to answer this: how does one continue to take Dems who whine about Russia seriously, in light of this?


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If a country like Qatar can buy ads lobbying against a blockade or whatever on our own television networks, then why shouldn't Russia be able to buy ads on Facebook?

Other countries buy ads and put out propaganda all the time.

Well, this is a really good point thumb up


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Well, this is a really good point thumb up


It's just because Trump won. That's the only reason. Butthurt and genuine stupidity.


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It's just because Trump won. That's the only reason. Butthurt and genuine stupidity.


It's just hilarious. Trump destroyed them. The democrat party will never be the same. Notice I called them the democrat party, and not the democratic party? Cuz you see..."democratic" is the furthest thing from what they are.

I'm making it a point to try to catch myself if I ever refer to them as democratic.


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It's just because Trump won. That's the only reason. Butthurt and genuine stupidity.

Yeah. Too bad indeed. I enjoy liberal butthurt as much as the next guy, but enough is enough.

I mean, it's been almost a year. They should give up on those silly games and tackle actual issues like gangs in Chicago or illegal migrants. And I mean both Dems and Republicans.


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Yeah. Too bad indeed. I enjoy liberal butthurt as much as the next guy, but enough is enough.

I mean, it's been almost a year. They should give up on those silly games and tackle actual issues like gangs in Chicago or illegal migrants. And I mean both Dems and Republicans.


This is also fair. I am also growing tired of the libtarded butthurt. The conservatarded butthurt lasted for years under Obama but it died down, massively, after a few months. Every now and again, some "he's gonna take our guns" shit would show up and the "he's not a citizen" bullshit would come up. But it died down almost completely a few months after he took office.



This is what happens when you have a large swathes of "me me me me" narcissistic people who want handouts and their feelings to be protected.


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This is also fair. I am also growing tired of the libtarded butthurt. The conservatarded butthurt lasted for years under Obama but it died down, massively, after a few months. Every now and again, some "he's gonna take our guns" shit would show up and the "he's not a citizen" bullshit would come up. But it died down almost completely a few months after he took office.



This is what happens when you have a large swathes of "me me me me" narcissistic people who want handouts and their feelings to be protected.

I see.


Yeah. It might be tied to the generational thing too. I know that millenials have a rather bad reputation, but I think there is something to it, given their overall "me, me, me" mindset.

Basically, a generation was manufactured that lives in an age of unparalleled abundace, but they lack discipline, integrity and developed critical faculties to engage with the world. Thus, they implode from the inside.


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This is also fair. I am also growing tired of the libtarded butthurt. The conservatarded butthurt lasted for years under Obama but it died down, massively, after a few months. Every now and again, some "he's gonna take our guns" shit would show up and the "he's not a citizen" bullshit would come up. But it died down almost completely a few months after he took office.



This is what happens when you have a large swathes of "me me me me" narcissistic people who want handouts and their feelings to be protected.
A valid point, but at around 2011 I was very much pessemistic towards Obama. He was a business as usual president with the whole "I'm charismatic and blak so I'm awesome" and idiots ate it up.

Trump put Obama in his place. Call that racist....I dont care. Obama was a dissappointment.


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This is also fair. I am also growing tired of the libtarded butthurt. The conservatarded butthurt lasted for years under Obama but it died down, massively, after a few months. Every now and again, some "he's gonna take our guns" shit would show up and the "he's not a citizen" bullshit would come up. But it died down almost completely a few months after he took office.



This is what happens when you have a large swathes of "me me me me" narcissistic people who want handouts and their feelings to be protected.


When it comes to Obama and guns, I think Steven Crowder made a good point about that. I don't think Obama ever came out and said that. But didn't he praise a system in another country...where they essentially took their guns? Like Australia, or some shit?


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A valid point, but at around 2011 I was very much pessemistic towards Obama. He was a business as usual president with the whole "I'm charismatic and blak so I'm awesome" and idiots ate it up.

Trump put Obama in his place. Call that racist....I dont care. Obama was a dissappointment.


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Obama was a massive disappointment. Did not like him. He was the type that played the media game, was politically correct, while murdering tens of thousands, and shitting all over our Constitution. no expression

He really was Bush Jr. 2.0.


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Obama was a massive disappointment. Did not like him. He was the type that played the media game, was politically correct, while murdering tens of thousands, and shitting all over our Constitution. no expression

He really was Bush Jr. 2.0.


Lol and they gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize. You can't make this stuff up.


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Lol and they gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize. You can't make this stuff up.


You know why my Probama friends said when I brought up Obama's murdering right shitting ways? "So? Bush killed HUNDREDS of thousands."


Right...Bush was worse, for sure. So I guess Obama is a level 7 piece of shit instead of a level 8 like Bush?


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You know why my Probama friends said when I brought up Obama's murdering right shitting ways? "So? Bush killed HUNDREDS of thousands."


Right...Bush was worse, for sure. So I guess Obama is a level 7 piece of shit instead of a level 8 like Bush?


It's what I never understood about some on the left. They act like they have the moral high ground, yet when confronted with their own wrongdoing they suddenly decide that the benchmark for behavior they want to use should be the people they think of as horrible people.

Next they'll be saying that Harvey Weinstein treated women well compared to Ted Bundy.


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