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Originally posted by dadudemon
I thought Robtard addressed this, already? Someone in the congregation grabbed the gun and he dropped it. It wasn't the person who had the gun that got him to stop.


The narrative in the news has changed at least three times now, I think at one point it was two people who intervened, one with their own rifle and another who grabbed the guys gun. Why its best to wait a few days so the BS can get filtered out. Not sure what the official report is now.


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Hmmm... Looks like a Law Might have been able to stop this Trajedy...but gusses which Political Party Put a STOP TO TO IT?

Democrats Stopped the Gunman from BEING STOPPED! SHOCKING!

....and let the Lefty Spin Begin!


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Except the single motherhood rate in the black community grew pretty drastically around the same time the civil rights movement made many of it's great strides. The single motherhood rate in black communities was actually lower back then. Is America more racist now than it was in the sixties and if so how did that happen?
Couldn't that just be related to the 'sexual liberation' that happened around the same time as the civil rights movement?

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The gun control in place if properly implemented would've stopped him.
I'm very skeptical of that claim. Maybe we could make it a bit harder for these mass shooters. But it's hard to imagine a policy that would prevent them altogether.

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Couldn't that just be related to the 'sexual liberation' that happened around the same time as the civil rights movement?

I already addressed this:
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You're confusing the removal of legal oppression for the removal of systematic issues.

What you're missing is that in the seventies and eighties there was a backlash against all that progress. Not mainly direct policy, but indirectly through financial policy.

America became financially conservative and started valuing individual success over widespread improvement. The thinking was "poor people are poor because they want to be poor. Homeless people are homeless because they want to be homeless". Public housing was killed, social services were massively cutback, and people dumped shelters and garbage and waste on poor communities giving up on them as they considered them a lost cause. Gentrification was allowed to destroy and relocate poor and working class people from their homes. School intergration was killed despite it improving the prospects of both black and white students. When people tried to build low incomes for poor minorities in middle class white communities, people got pissed and stopped that sh!t.

In short, we stopped giving a sh!t about the impoverished and bottom of our society, and that had quite a bit to do with racism. which ended up fcking up minorities disproportionately.'

And even today, alot of that systematic problem goes on utterly unaddressed.

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I'm very skeptical of that claim. Maybe we could make it a bit harder for these mass shooters. But it's hard to imagine a policy that would prevent them altogether.

Except if the policy in place was implemented properly, meaning if there wasn't someone in the government who ****ed up at doing their job, the background check would've actually turned up bad shit on this guy and he wouldn't have been able to purchase the gun.


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Couldn't that just be related to the 'sexual liberation' that happened around the same time as the civil rights movement?

It very well could be, the idea that the single motherhood rate is the way it is "becuz oppression!" isn't an argument I've seen compelling evidence for is my point.


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Except if the policy in place was implemented properly, meaning if there wasn't someone in the government who ****ed up at doing their job, the background check would've actually turned up bad shit on this guy and he wouldn't have been able to purchase the gun.
That might have prevented him from buying the gun that he bought. I just tend to think that the kind of psycho that is going to shoot up a bunch of random people would just get a gun on the black market if they had to.

Also, it seems likely that there are probably other mass shooters out there who wouldn't necessarily fail said background test. I'm not saying that I wouldn't support such a measure, btw. I just think that these shootings will likely continue regardless.

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It very well could be, the idea that the single motherhood rate is the way it is "becuz oppression!" isn't an argument I've seen compelling evidence for is my point.
Oh. I thought you were implying it was a result of the civil rights movement.

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I already addressed this:
I saw that post but it doesn't really answer the question I posed.

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It very well could be, the idea that the single motherhood rate is the way it is "becuz oppression!" isn't an argument I've seen compelling evidence for is my point.

Address my response if you would

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I saw that post but it doesn't really answer the question I posed.

Oh, I don't know sh!t about sexual liberation, but I was hoping to get DMB to respond to my response to his question.

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The LEFTY MEDIA LIES ABOUT THE SSS!?? How shocked should I pretend to be?


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Oh, I don't know sh!t about sexual liberation, but I was hoping to get DMB to respond to my response to his question.


It all comes down to money.

A lot of this comes down to things outside the governments control. Or maybe the ability to handle.

If budget's are short, the most vulnerable are the first to suffer. Homeless shelters close, benefits dry up, public works are stalled..

All comes down to money.

And on jobs, it's worse. Companies are cash cows for investors at best, ponzi schemes at worst, and the "human resources" don't factor into it. If a company can be run with 100% automated labor, that's what will happen.

It all comes down to money.

The gentrification that displaces the poor makes other people less poor. Or even wealthy. That's why it happens.. The governnent can't really prevent it from happening. A bunch of trust fund babies or ultra privileged kids with deep pockets decide to buy into a new strip with a Whole Foods, several micro brews some clubs, some excitement, and a lot of job prospects for the well educated, what can you do about it? Force them out, or else?

Nothing to be done.

The only way things will change, is if the poor learn to become Carl Ichons and get some backing, or if a bunch of rich altruists pool their resources, become very active in politics, set up jobs that look at human beings as more then a means to personal wealth, and basically do their level best to live for people other then their friends, family, and lifestyle.

Good luck with that. Even supposedy "liberal" university professors openly admit their pensions rank higher on their concerns then any social issue, to their shame.


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