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Note his disassembly of the missiles.


I see it.

It begs the question, why even bother with the steel ibeams. Why not just affect the gunships directly?

It's a nice feat, but if this represents more then an outlier, then the logical conclusion is Magneto should be able to affect wood.


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I've seen some references to him affecting wood, but I'm not going to make any claims. But apparently it has happened.


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Magneto's powers extend to sub-atomic.

He can affect atoms individually, it's just harder.


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Pretty much, atoms themselves are magnetic due to the spin and orbital momentum of electrons. Non-ferrous metals also can be affected by a strong enough magnet like those in an MRI machine. Rom is fooked!


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lol i've missed you whirly. thumb up

and cd--just because he fought glads doesn't mean he can challenge mags at all. he isn't as fast or strong as glads in any event, but more importantly, mags is a totally different kind of opponent, obviously. we'd also need proof the armor is non ferrous. i know for a fact the marvel armor was metal...

as far as affecting non-ferrous items--he has done so a couple different times. when he is shown affecting matter atomically, the macro magnetic properties of the substance wouldn't matter because as whirly said, atoms themselves are magnetic.

rom really is fooked. /shrugged


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I remember Marvel Rom seeming pretty formidable, though.

Didn't Ben Grim or Colossus lose horribly to Gladiator? To even challenge him is a pretty impressive showing, imo.

Is the argument now that Rom is ferrous until proven otherwise? Or is it that it doesn't really matter, because of atomic properities?

The latter is saying a lot more about Magnus then Rom.. As in, you could put Superman or Blue Marvel in here and he'd win (Since his em spectrum powers can affect literally anything made of atoms..)


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We're all talking about this Magneto, right?

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*Magneto is dying and not at full power
*Magneto can manipulate forms of energy even outside of the electromagnetic spectrum -- and does so by taking control of Proteus's body and modifying his energy matrix.
"Energy, Proteus. Just electrons dancing."


If you think he's limited to effecting ferrous metal, you're just not paying attention. He certainly could f*ck up Superman Blue... if Supes was standing still or not fighting back.

Rom just doesn't have the capacity to counter Magneto before he dies.

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Not Superman Blue. Regular Superman.


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Oh, misread that on my phone. thumb up

Point stands though. There's an older scan somewhere of Magneto casually levitating a paper file, and he's been effecting exotic energy for a long time. Ferrous metals may be his bread and butter, but Marvel hasn't limited him to that, or even to the EM spectrum.

I'm sure that he could effect Superman and Blue Marvel in various ways, if they were moving slow enough that he could concentrate on it.

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yeah blue supes may simply exceed his own energy control abilities. as far as rom--yeah, i'd think the onus would be on you (cd) to show the armor is NOT metal...) if it isn't then this could be quite different. he simply doesn't have as many showings against non-metals, and there are even some contradictory showings out there. mags would be forced to use iron in the environment against him, which could still be enough to win this for him, or go for the old blood trick if galadorians have iron in their blood...

rom DOES have some decent showings. i'd put him overall in the low herald category but his neutralizer IS a pis deux ex machina and it has some really good feats. again, he wouldn't have the chance to use it here, unless we allow for a potential quick draw, but given the starting distance i'd have to say mags would win that. in character i can't see rom having a chance here.


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do we know that the new rom's armor isn't made of metal...? the old one was plandanium. strong stuff, but weaker than adamantium which mags has easily ripped out of logan. the neutralizer would def work on mags, (could even make him human) but there is no way he'd have a chance to use it. seriously not understanding how this is a legit discussion... confused


From what was shown in the Rom Annual for the IDw version, It was symbiotic.


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We're all talking about this Magneto, right?



If you think he's limited to effecting ferrous metal, you're just not paying attention. He certainly could f*ck up Superman Blue... if Supes was standing still or not fighting back.

Rom just doesn't have the capacity to counter Magneto before he dies.

If only Superman blue wasn't more skilled in energy manipulation than Magneto is, you may be right.

But yeah, he could damage Superman if he isn't fighting back.


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Could Energy Superman control GL energy, IYO?


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Yes, at that time they were only hard light constructs. Energy Superman controlled every type of energy he encountered, even magic and psychic energy.


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Yes, at that time they were only hard light constructs. Energy Superman controlled every type of energy he encountered, even magic and psychic energy.


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GLs are useless against energy Superman.


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lol i've missed you whirly. thumb up

and cd--just because he fought glads doesn't mean he can challenge mags at all. he isn't as fast or strong as glads in any event, but more importantly, mags is a totally different kind of opponent, obviously. we'd also need proof the armor is non ferrous. i know for a fact the marvel armor was metal...

as far as affecting non-ferrous items--he has done so a couple different times. when he is shown affecting matter atomically, the macro magnetic properties of the substance wouldn't matter because as whirly said, atoms themselves are magnetic.

rom really is fooked. /shrugged
Cheers old pal, I've missed you too. I'm suprised though you and Galen, had sussed on who this account was... :P


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