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Yeah at least telling quips he’d be noticed.

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The only movie, imo, that even tried with him was the very first one, and that was barely passable.

Honestly, a part of me would be worried if they got the X-Men back. I don't know if I trust the people working on the MCU to do justice to the X-Men. I doubt we'll get any movies as good as Logan from them either. Mind you, I doubt we'd get movies as bad as Apocalypse, so it's a mixed bag.


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Yeah that Apocalypse was so damn creative right???

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This coming from the guy who thinks Kat Dennings in a movie about a Norse god was a good idea LOL. So sad that not every Marvel fan wants the Mickey Mouse ears stamped onto every bit of character lore and wants actual variety in their movies. I know it might be hard for you of to understand due to your liking the same repetitive formula for Films, but Logan and Legion are vastly better than anything the MCU has done. FOX also explore multiple film styles where the MCU is content making the same generic comedic crap and over and over


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I enjoyed Logan, but wouldn't say it's "vastly better" than ANYTHING the MCU has done but it's better than some of the MCU films. MCU isn't perfect but I'd say it's done some films that are better than Logan, Legion I haven't seen so can't comment on that.


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This coming from the guy who thinks Kat Dennings in a movie about a Norse god was a good idea LOL. So sad that not every Marvel fan wants the Mickey Mouse ears stamped onto every bit of character lore and wants actual variety in their movies. I know it might be hard for you of to understand due to your liking the same repetitive formula for Films, but Logan and Legion are vastly better than anything the MCU has done. FOX also explore multiple film styles where the MCU is content making the same generic comedic crap and over and over
Opinions vary so relax there, emotional guy. I disagree wholeheartedly with your opinion. Logan is overrated. When the deal goes through I'm going to rub it in.


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The only movie, imo, that even tried with him was the very first one, and that was barely passable.

Honestly, a part of me would be worried if they got the X-Men back. I don't know if I trust the people working on the MCU to do justice to the X-Men. I doubt we'll get any movies as good as Logan from them either. Mind you, I doubt we'd get movies as bad as Apocalypse, so it's a mixed bag.

At least passable X-Men films would be more common. The pros pretty much outweigh the cons imo.

Scott was one of the best things about the first one, yeah, but X1 itself is a product of the time that doesn’t really hold up.


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Considering how Marvel has treated the Xmen in the past decade I'm not so sure having them in the MCU would be a good idea.

Besides Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen were the perfectly cast Professor X and Magneto IMO and I doubt anyone Disney finds would be able to match up.

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The only movie, imo, that even tried with him was the very first one, and that was barely passable.

Honestly, a part of me would be worried if they got the X-Men back. I don't know if I trust the people working on the MCU to do justice to the X-Men. I doubt we'll get any movies as good as Logan from them either. Mind you, I doubt we'd get movies as bad as Apocalypse, so it's a mixed bag.


I think Logan is one of the most overrated movies out there and I liked Apocalypse a lot. I still would rather the MCU take over the reigns though.


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Considering how Marvel has treated the Xmen in the past decade I'm not so sure having them in the MCU would be a good idea.

Besides Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen were the perfectly cast Professor X and Magneto IMO and I doubt anyone Disney finds would be able to match up.

Said treatment is mostly only due to Marvel’s butthurt of not having full rights to the X-Men.

Xavier I would agree on, but there’s plenty more options/room for someone like Magneto, good as McKellen was with the role.


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At least passable X-Men films would be more common. The pros pretty much outweigh the cons imo.

Scott was one of the best things about the first one, yeah, but X1 itself is a product of the time that doesn’t really hold up.


I'd be satisfied with "passable" movies, sure.

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. That ****ing cardigan.

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I think Logan is one of the most overrated movies out there and I liked Apocalypse a lot. I still would rather the MCU take over the reigns though.


Logan is pretty good imo, but I wouldn't put it above, say, Winter Soldier. Civil War? I'd say it's in the same ball-park at least.


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The only movie, imo, that even tried with him was the very first one, and that was barely passable.

Honestly, a part of me would be worried if they got the X-Men back. I don't know if I trust the people working on the MCU to do justice to the X-Men. I doubt we'll get any movies as good as Logan from them either. Mind you, I doubt we'd get movies as bad as Apocalypse, so it's a mixed bag.
Why would Kevin Fiege not know how to make great Xmen films? The MCU is churning out great movies all the time now...I trust Fiege to get it done.....but again, Im WAY more excited for FF.


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Why would Kevin Fiege not know how to make great Xmen films? The MCU is churning out great movies all the time now...I trust Fiege to get it done.....but again, Im WAY more excited for FF.


Considering what Marvel did with the X-Men even before the whole "bury them to spite Fox" thing, I honestly don't know what I would expect from Feige. Especially considering the kind of subject matter the X-Men generally deal with.

And let's be fair, not every MCU movie is Winter Soldier.


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Disney buying Fox would be terrible. Disney has already become too big, this would just be way too much.

But the MCU can not use Silver Surfer so "yay!" I guess?

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Considering what Marvel did with the X-Men even before the whole "bury them to spite Fox" thing, I honestly don't know what I would expect from Feige. Especially considering the kind of subject matter the X-Men generally deal with.

And let's be fair, not every MCU movie is Winter Soldier.


The Netflix shows are Disney Marvel. They're doing fine with R rating and mature content. I'm not saying that it has to be that extreme but they can deal with mature content just fine.


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Considering what Marvel did with the X-Men even before the whole "bury them to spite Fox" thing, I honestly don't know what I would expect from Feige. Especially considering the kind of subject matter the X-Men generally deal with.

And let's be fair, not every MCU movie is Winter Soldier.
Lets be fair MCU has produced a cohesive set of films massively better than fox or Warner.


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I know it might be hard for you of to understand due to your liking the same repetitive formula for Films, but Logan and Legion are vastly better than anything the MCU has done.



They’ve been at it almost 20 years and all you have to harp on about is Hugh Jackman’s final shot at making a popular Wolverine movie and a Tv series that while entertaining, no one’s gonna cry over.

Wow convincing argument. Sign me up for Apocalypse2. Look forward to Jean killing Cyclops and Professor X again.

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so.. who is butthurt today and over what???


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The Netflix shows are Disney Marvel. They're doing fine with R rating and mature content. I'm not saying that it has to be that extreme but they can deal with mature content just fine.


On Netflix. If they did some sort of X-Men series on Netflix, I'd be all for it, but the budget constraints would be iffy.

The MCU movies, as good as they can be, has still shied away from things it really shouldn't have at times. Like someone said already, I'm sure the movies will be passable, but I'd still be really cautious if this deal goes through (and it's looking like it will, if sites are to be believed).

And even if they did go with darker themes, which is great, there's still plenty about the X-Men that not even Fox got right, so I'd still have very much a "wait and see" approach to it.

And I still refuse to believe we'd get the kind of Deadpool movies we've gotten so far.

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Disney buying Fox would be terrible. Disney has already become too big, this would just be way too much.

But the MCU can not use Silver Surfer so "yay!" I guess?


From what I read, they're buying not just the Marvel stuff, but a huge chunk, if not all of, Fox's tv and movie IPs. I have no idea if that's true, but it's worrying.


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there's still plenty about the X-Men that not even Fox got right


Youre taking about Cyclops right


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And I still refuse to believe we'd get the kind of Deadpool movies we've gotten so far..


Disney could always do what they did in the past, Release the more R rated movies through another studio.


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